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No action from GoK for THREE years on KSD-No reply from It and eGovernance Secretary

Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Mismatch in e-governance due to incompatible software / Re: Kannada Software Development, GoK, eGovernance, Kannadigas, Karnataka
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Hon. Governor
Raj Bhavan
Raj Bhavan Road
Bangalore 560 001 INDIA
Voice: +91-80-2225 4102(General-epbax),
Special officer Rajbhavan :+91-80-2225 4106,
Fax: +91-80-2225 8150
Email: rbblr@vsnl.com

and

Shri M.N. Vidyashankar
Secretary to Government
Dept.of Information Technology, Biotechnology and Science & Technology
Government of Karnataka
VI Floor, 5thStage
M.S.Building, Ambedkar Veedhi
Bangalore – 560 001
Fax: 91-80-22288340, 22262450
e-mail: itsec@bangaloreit.in
biosec@bangaloreit.in

PLEASE go through these emails written in 2004 about KANNADA LANGUAGE and KANNADA Software Development.

In a message dated 6/15/2004 10:24:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, prsar-dpar@karnataka.gov.in writes:

Dear Mr. Kumaraswamy,

Thank you for your detailed description of the problems being faced in the operation of NUDI and the use of Kannada software to carry on work by the Government. i must confess to great ignorance of software technologies and preparation. However, your communication is a good trarting point for some study into the items you have raised. i shall ask the Secretary E-Governance to examine as to what needs to be done on the points you have raised. i am marking a copy of this reply to him which should help you to be in touch with the source that should be in a position to follow what you have pointed out.

Regards,

acharya

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SINCE 2004, GoK has not made any attempt to correct the problems of Kannada Software Development, even with 1000 letters to GoK.

BARAHA Fonts has DESTROYED the KANNADA SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT in KARNATAKA STATE.

BARAHA FONTS is COPIED by NUDI Fonts by Kannada Ganaka Parishat and then KGP sold it to Govt. of Karnataka for 29 Lakhs.

Is this what we want ? Be TRUTHFUL in telling KANNADIGAS.

Bring this to open first !!!

GoK using STOLEN NUDI fonts !!

 Atleast read what Dr. U. B.  PAVANAJA has written about BARAHA, NUDi and AKRUTHI Fonts.

Kannada Fonts Piracy

https://ellakavi.wordpress.com/kannada-fonts-piracy/

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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Mismatch in e-governance due to incompatible software / Re: Kannada Software Development, GoK, eGovernance, Kannadigas, Karnataka
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Dear Mr. ACHARYA and others in GOK,

ACCORDING TO KRIA, Karnataka Right to Information Act, You all need to respond in certain number of days to email letters.

I hope GOK Secretaries are following this KRIA act properly and respond to letters of citizens of Karnataka State.

Press and MEDIA in Bangalore and Karnataka State need to act on this and expose what is happenning.

KANNADIGAS expect an answer from you all.

Thanks

Sincerely

V. M. Kumaraswamy

indiaegov OK <indiaegovok@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Mr. Acharya,

I had written to you On June 13th, 2004 about INCOMPATIBLE KANNADA SOFTWARE being used in GoK. You had promptly responded to me on June 15th, 2004. Both the copies of the emails are appended here for you and all in the email to read. You had written that you have referred this issue to Secretary of egovernance of GoK.

What did he do? NOTHING. egovSec went to make his deals with NISG, CMS / RAMINFO TECH and adopting CAG slammed project eSeva for Bangalore One Project. WHAT A WAY TO HANDLE THINGS FOR GOK !!

NISG has to take most of the blame for all the things that are happenning in eGov of INDIA.

This eGov Sec of GoK does not have regard for KANNADA Language. He is interested in deals to be made as quickly as possible. He does not know how long he is going to stay as eGov Sec ofGOK !! MAKE HAY WHILE THE SUNSHINES !!!

WHAT HAS HAPPENED NOW NOTHING ? Please read the following and also rely from CM of Karnataka State.

Now GOK Secretaries EXPERTS COMMITTEE and EMPOWERED COMMITTEE of GOK gone ahead with BANGALORE ONE Project also which in itself is a FRAUD ON PEOPLE OF BANAGLORE CITY and KARNATAKA STATE. Please go through this URL. It might save lots of time for lots of peopel in Karnataka State.

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THE HINDU

18-4-05

 

Many depts yet to complete e-governance projects

                                   Software mismatch makes communication impossible

 

Nagesh Prabhu

  • Sixty-two departments have taken up e-governance projects at a cost of Rs. 179.93 crores.
  • Only 17 departments have completed their projects. Projects are in initial stage in 10 departments.
  • Each department opted for its own brand of software that is not compatible with that in other offices.

 

Bangalore : E-governance and computerization are yet to be completed in many government departments and agencies despite spending huge sums of money on them in the past five years and concomitant publicity.

 

Sixty-two government departments have taken up e-governance projects since 1995-96 at a cost of Rs. 179.93 crores for achieving the goals of efficiency, transparency and citizen-friendly interface. Of them, only 17 departments have completed their projects. The projects are at the completion stage in four departments and at the initial stage in 10 departments. Some progress has been made in 26 departments. There is, however, no information about the projects in five departments, according to official records.

 

In their eagerness to catch up with the latest trends in information technology, each departments opted for its own brand of Kannada software that is not compatible with that in other offices.

 

Departments / Directorates such as Women and Child Welfare, Economic and Statistics, Kannada and Culture, Secondary Education, Bangalore Mahanagara Palike have used “Nudi” software,

 

while Social Welfare and Employment and Training went in for “Nudi” and “Kairali” software.

 

While the Bangalore Urban Water Supply and Sewerage Board has used “Leep”, software,

 

the Excise Department had adopted ISM.

 

The Karnataka High Court and Port and Inland Water Transport department have used “Surabhi” software.

 

The Karnataka Legal Services Authority has used “Surabhi” and “Srilipi” software.

 

The Gulbarge Municipal Corporation has used “Lipi” software.

 

The Directorate of Translation has used “Akrati” and “Kannada Padma” software.

 

As a result, collection of data and reporting from one department to another is almost impossible, and the entire works has to be done all over again. If e-governance is to effective, individual application programmes should be able to communicate with those of the other departments. Inter-operability of e-governance projects is of vital importance if citizens are to benefit from information technology, say experts in e-governance.

 

Most of the departments have given consultancy to companies such as C-DAC, Wipro Infotech, HCL, Keonics, Zenith Computers, Excel software, TCL Limited, and Crest Technologies for software.

 

The Chief Minister, N. Dharam Singh has acknowledged the delay in the completion of e-governance projects.

 

He said in the Legislative Assembly recently he will take steps for their early completion. Many legislators argued that crores of rupees have been spent on e-governance projects but to no avail.

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In a message dated 6/15/2004 10:24:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, prsar-dpar@karnataka.gov.in writes:

Dear Mr. Kumaraswamy,

Thank you for your detailed description of the problems being faced in the operation of NUDI and the use of Kannada software to carry on work by the Government. i must confess to great ignorance of software technologies and preparation. However, your communication is a good trarting point for some study into the items you have raised. i shall ask the Secretary E-Governance to examine as to what needs to be done on the points you have raised. i am marking a copy of this reply to him which sould help you to be in touch with the source that should be in a position to follow what you have pointed out.

Regards,

acharya 

—–Original Message—–
From: NovaMed@aol.com [mailto:NovaMed@aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 7:59 PM
To: NovaMed@aol.com
Subject: Kannada Software Development, GoK, eGovernance, Kannadigas, Karnataka

Hello GoK PRSecretaries, Secretaries, DYSecretaries and others,

This is request from Kannadigas of Karnataka and all over the world. Kannada should be used in all Departments of GoK. Is this happenning ? Is Development work of Kannada Software heading in the right direction? This is a request fro all of you to look into. Here are some of the information provided for your file. PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS.

All GoK Departemnts should be using the same software and networking systems.

eGovernance of GoK needs to look into the Development of Kannada Software. This is not going properly. Even though Bangalore being IT Capital.

Has eGovernance checked why Kannada Developers are not coming forward with new products?

NUDI Kannada Software is the property of GoK. Since it was funded by GoK.

GoK sponsored Nudi software must be made Open Source Software (OSS). NUDI should be made UNICODE compatible in all avenues. Not in one item as it is now. GoK need to do this immedately without wasting any time.

WHY eGovernance has not recomended NUDI Software to be Open Source Software (OSS) ? This helps all Kannadigas to develop further the Kannada Software, SO THAT GoK can have better programs for a smooth networking of all Departments of GoK.

DOES eGovernance know problems with NUDI SOFTWARE? Some of them are listed here for the benefit of GoK.

a. NUDI breaks the GOI standard when arkavattu is involved. NUDI has problem in Export to IISCII.

b.  Nudi just has a Unicode compatible keyboard driver which works only on Windows XP (and on Windows 2000, if there is a Kannada Opentype font present)
Nudi’s editor has a feature “Save As Unicode”. But the file saved as Unicode can not be opend again by Nudi. In other words,  Nudi’s editor can not edit a Unicode document.

c. Nudi does not provide opentype font which is required for rendering Kannada Unicode text.

d. There is no bi-lingual font standard for Kannada. Does eGovernance know this?

e. Nudi follows GoK standard in these areas-


monolingual truetye font glyph set
keyboard layout
save as HTML
Nudi’s non-standard features are-
Nudi contains a bi-lingual truetype font which is not as per any standard
Nudi’s Save As ISCII breaks the Govt of India standard when arkavattu is involved.
Nudi uses a scheme called Kannada Script Code for Language Processing (KSCLP) for sorting, which is not as per any standard. But the fact is that this KSCLP is a good solution for Kannada Sorting. This should be in the Public Domain.

f. Nudi has just a keyboard driver for Unicode which works only on Windows XP and 2003. Windows XP and 2003 have built-in support for Unicode making the Unicode feature of Nudi redundant. Nudi does not provide opentype font which is required for rendering Kannada Unicode text. Nudi’s Software Development Kit (SDK) does not support Unicode.

Egample:  Type some text in Kannada using Nudi 4. Save it as Unicode. Then open the same file again in Nudi 4. It shows it as junk. Nudi cannot display a Kannada Unicode text file created by XP or Linux. That means Nudi’s Unicode support is of no use.

g. There is a difference between Freeware and Free Software. Nudi is a Freeware but not a Free Software. As per GNU, Free Software is the one where the source code is also available in public domain.  Nudi’s source code is not available in public domain. It is not an opensource software. Only binary (executable) of Nudi is free. If you are a software expert, found some bugs in Nudi (there are many) and want to correct them, then you can not do so.

NUDI is not in conformity with the G.O for the following:
1. Nudi developed using non-standard proprietory encoding which is not a standard.
2. Nudi uses the modified ISCII standard (ISCII is a national standard).
3. Nudi does not provide any conversion utility to convert the data created using the other existing Kannada software.
4. Nudi does not provide conversion utility to convert between the data created in the standard glyphs and the ISCII.

    Kannada Linux enthusiasts and developers are requesting for the source code of Nudi from

    last three years.  They are needing the source code of Nudi for implementing the keyboard

    driver and the sorting algorithm. This helps Kannada Software to be developed in a different

    platform.

Kannadigas are complaining that fonts issued along with Nudi are not of professional quality, there is not support mechanism for Nudi, Nudi has many  bugs, etc.

Kannadigas and Developers feel IF Nudi is made OSS, passionate developers can fix the bugs in Nudi.

From reading all the information provided, one can come to conclusion that;

All the above has done damage to Kannada software development.

We all need to promote more Kannada Software developers to come forward for the benefit of GoK and make it more open. THIS HELPS GoK also.

Literally, there can be a Kannada version for every software in English. All of you please think why there are many software in English and why not in Kannada or any Indian Language. It is the business (need or anticipated need) which drives the development. How one can expect the development, WHEN KANNADA Software development is monopolised?

If any of you has any questions on this, Please write to me. ATLEAST some of you must look into these problems that are created here and try to correect it.

Thanks

Sincerely

V. M. Kumaraswamy

Kannadigas all over the world

www.ekavi.org

Email: novamed@aol.com , ellakannada@yahoo.com

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Email: umashankarc@gmail.com

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So what is you answer now ? Are you going to answer the problems that are arised here ?

 

We are waiting for your reply and also from HONEST RESPONSIBLE officers in GoK, IF there are any left in GoK.

 

I hope MINISTERS and POLITICIANS take notice of these things.

 

Thanks

Sincerely

 

V. M. Kumaraswamy

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