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Know more about Dasara online[the talking website ]


Know more about Dasara online
 
By P M Raghunandan
DH News Service Mysore:
 

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/sep252006/state226472006924.asp

Bored of reading through voluminous literature about Mysore Dasara? Well, here is a way out to save you from the trouble — just click online and listen to a guided tour to Nada Habba 2006. In yet another IT initiative, the Dasara Tourism Committee has now introduced ‘talking website’, wherein information on any of the major tourist attractions in Mysore can be heard online.

What one needs to do is log on to the Committee’s website — www.mysoretourism.org — and select any place of interest on the home page. An animated lady will first greet and subsequently start narrating the importance of the place.

www.mysoretourism.org

It may be the Mysore Palace or picturesque Brindavan Gardens or Chamundi Hills, or Mysore Zoo, information about almost all important places will be delivered through voice mode.

www.mysoretourism.org

To avail this option, one needs to have an internet connection and a multi-media facility. Not only about tourist places, the talking website will also guide tourists about various options available for lodging in Mysore Dasara — which is perhaps the major hurdle a tourist faces in Mysore.

www.mysoretourism.org

By selecting the lodging option on the home page, the ‘lady’ will brief about hotels available (including luxury, budget and economy hotels) and their locations. Interestingly, Athithi option (Home Stay) is also available. Information on Home Stay facilities in Mysore during all 10-days of the festivities can be heard using this option. Besides, the website is programmed to give all other information on various Dasara events through audio mode.

www.mysoretourism.org

Plans are also on the cards to convert the website into a dynamic interactive one. Once this is done, the animated lady on the site will answer to any queries about Mysore Dasara and related events.

www.mysoretourism.org

The new initiative is the brainchild of a local techie Sanjay, who also runs an IT solution company Software Guru. “Our tests have shown that users will look at more pages on your website and stay for longer, if there is a friendly voice guiding them,” Sanjay pointed out.

www.mysoretourism.org

Audio enhancement of websites is a fast developing area. Because of the huge demand for computer games, music and video, most home internet users now have a computer with speakers attached. This has opened up new and exciting ways of delivering information to potential customers, he added.

www.mysoretourism.org

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Cultural capital of Karnataka, Mysore is a majestic, mysterious and mesmersing city. It has inherited all Indian traditions with modernity. Mysore has a number of historical and heritage buildings.

The Royal City of Mysore, a beautiful city ideal for people who wish to live a peaceful life. Mysore is a place well renowned for Dasara festival and is a favored tourism destination throughout India.

Interesting Places
1. Mysore Palace
2. Chamundi Hills
3. Mysore Zoo
4. Brindavan Gardens & KRS Dam
5. St. Philomena’s Church
6. Heritage Ride
7. Entertainment
8. Cultural Centres
9. Yoga Centres
10. Community

 

Srirangapatna : Col. Baley’s Dungeon, Fort, Watergate Site of Tippu’s death, Nimishamba Temple, Iman’s Dungeon, Maszid -E-Ala, Magazine house, Dariyadaulath bagh (Tippu’s Palace), Gumbaz, Sangam, European cemetry, Karigatta hill plain

Ranganathittu Bird Sanctuary
Bandipur National Park
Nagarahole (Rajiv Gandhi National Park)
Somanathapura

Bylakuppe : Buddhist Golden Temple

B. R. Hills : Himavad Gopalswamy Betta
Gomatagiri
Kabini River Lodge
Talakad : Keerthinarayan temple

Melkote : Cheluva-rayaswami Temple

Shivanasamudra Falls : Bharachukki and Gaganachukki
Nanjangud : Nanjundeshwara / Srikanteshwara temple
Belur | Halebid |Shravanabelagola
Resorts in and around

Amblee Holiday Resort, Mysore-Bangalore Road, Srirangapatna, Tel : 0821-3092475, Mobile : 9845002665

Chitravana Resorts, Manandawady Road, Kalawadi Gate, Mysore 570 008, Phone 0821.2901282, 3095553

 

September 25, 2006 Posted by | Dasara, EKAVI BAGALKOTE | 2 Comments

Kumaraswamy’s pro-Kannada moves

Kumaraswamy’s pro-Kannada moves
Monday, September 25, 2006 11:02:13 am

http://www.timesnow.tv/articleshow/2024781.cms

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A special session of the Karnataka legislative assembly will begin in Belgaum today and at the session Karnataka Chief Minister Kumaraswamy is expected to push his pro-Kannada stand further in the matter of Kannada being the medium of instruction in primary schools.

Karnataka Chief Minister HD Kumaraswamy, in the centre of the controversy over his government’s decision to push Kannada as the medium of instruction at the cost of forcing the closure of over 1400 schools.

Earlier the Chief Minister as a fitting inheritor of the son of the soil legacy of his father former Prime Minister HD Deve Gowda has shown that he would go to extreme lengths to boost the status of Karnataka and even resorting to negative remarks on neighbouring states.

“While Chennai is prone to Tsunamis and LTTE worries, Andhra Pradesh has Naxalite and infrastructure problem,” said Karnataka Chief Minister HD Kumaraswamy.

And a master stroke — the decision to move all Karnataka MLAs and MLCs to Belgaum for a five-day assembly session, the first time it’s being held out of Bangalore’s Vidhan Soudha. The move comes as nothing short of Karnataka’s proclamation to neighbouring Maharashtra and the Centre, that it will not allow its territorial integrity to be breached.

“The Belgaum session will send out the message loud and clear that Karnataka’s border will not be allowed to be used by politicians of neighbouring states to achieve their personal ends,” said Kumaraswamy.

Whether it is turning the BMIC project controversy from being one allegedly involving personal interests, to an issue of protecting farmer’s interests. Kumaraswamy has always played the Kannada card to perfection. And Monday’s rally will undoubtedly be another perfect example.

September 25, 2006 Posted by | CIIL Kannada, Govt. of Karnataka - GoK | Leave a comment

On Line Course from IIT – Let Education Flourish

Please spread this information across your friends…………………… And make
the best use of this.

The IITs have taken up an initiative of starting online teaching and
thus have started offering course materials online for every
engineering stream.

-Many professors from all the IITs have provided course materials
for each chapter and each subject.

-One has to register at the link provided below and can access the
course material.

-Every Chapter has been described with diagrams and charts.

- Please spread this message to everyone, as many can benefit from
this program taken up by the government and IIT.

This is just a trial period going on and hence i request everyone to
register at the link given.

1] Go to http://nptel. iitm.ac.in

2] Click on Courses

3] Sign up as a NEW USER

4] And one can access any course material.

Please spread the word, so that this initiative benefits as many
students as possible.

September 24, 2006 Posted by | EKAVI, EKAVI BIJAPUR | Leave a comment

ANAND S. K. of AKRUTI FONTS:: Suggestions on KSD

ANAND S. K. Writes:

1. Open Source Initiative: I think no where is the world does an open source initiative depend on either the government or the bureaucracy, the very idea of open source is based on passionate support by individuals and autonomous groups. The moment a government or bureaucracy steps in, the idea is dead. At best outside support from them should be welcome and not a screening commitee under MIT or DIT as suggested.

2. OpenType Kannada Fonts: I think Pavanaja has put it quite rightly, that unless there is an incentive for putting quality Kannada fonts into public domain, no commercial organization like ours which has a wealth of such fonts would be willing to do so. We who have been developing such fonts (AKRUTI) well over two decades would not like a repeat of the experience, we had when our fonts were pirated off the Web and used without acknowledgement, first by an individual who went on to release a free software and then by an organization which followed suit. Unless IPR is recognized and compensated for, you can expect very little to happen. I am also happy to inform that three high quality Opentype fonts in Kannada called Sampige and Mallige and Kedage (developed commercially by us for RCILTS-Kannada, IISC, Bangalore) by us are available in public domain for general usage. More can be done provided proper mechanisms are set in place. ” Quality always comes at a price, so if you pay peanuts all you can hire are monkeys !! “

3. GOK and GOI involvement: I think while it is important to rally around the government to support the efforts to develop Kannada, it is high time we broke out of the “Mai Baap” mentality in the 21st century to refer every issue to the government or its functionaries and hope that they will solve it for us. I personally feel that if the issue of Kannada usage has to rely on government patronage or is so sick that it needs continual oxygen from the state then it is better for us to administer “Euthanasia” and solve the problem once and for all. Ultimately, it must become commercially viable and necessary to communicate in Kannada whether verbally, textually or electronically for development to happen and be self sustaining. Kannada has survived over 2000 years without any significant State patronage, so let us not be unduly worried that it will die in the electronic medium so soon, especially when the whole world seems to be recognizing that India and more specifically Karnataka and Bangalore will be playing an increasingly greater role on the world stage.

September 24, 2006 Posted by | Blogroll, KANNADA | Leave a comment

ENGLISHVsKANNADA MEDIUM:: CM defends govt’s decision on schools / Govt set to close 1,420 erring schools

ENGLISHVsKANNADA MEDIUM
CM defends govt’s decision on schools
 
DH News Service Shimoga:
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/sep242006/state191782006923.asp

Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy on Saturday defended the the government’s decision to derecognise schools that have violated the language policy.

The Government will take a suitable decision, keeping in mind the future of the students, he told newspersons here.

The schools had obtained the permission to teach in Kannada medium for 1 st to 5th standards but were teaching in English. Such violations cannot be tolerated, he said. “I had a meeting of the adminsitrative board of private schools. I asked them who had come to teach a lesson in humanity to the government if they had any humanitarian considerations towards the children when they gave admissions and they all hung their heads in shame”, he explained. “The private schools have been warned since 2004 not to violate the language policy but they continued with out heeding to our caution. Because of this the government took stringent action. Education Mnister Horatti and the officials of the department have taken the appropriate step” he defended.

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They will become ‘private tutorials’
 
DH News Service Bangalore:
Undeterred by the government’s decision to derecognise schools which have violated the 1994 Government Order, Karnataka Unaided School Managements’ Association on Saturday said it…
 

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/sep242006/index213472006923.asp

Undeterred by the government’s decision to derecognise schools which have violated the 1994 Government Order, Karnataka Unaided School Managements’ Association on Saturday said it would advise its affiliated schools to continue to run their institutions as “private tutorials”.

The Association, however, admitted that the schools have violated the GO on the medium of instruction.

“We tried to convince the government to allow the schools to function at least till the end of the academic year, so that students are not displaced during the middle of the academic year; but our request was turned down. If the government does not reconsider its decision, we will advise the institutions to function as private tutorials,” Association president G S Sharma said.

Sharma said the institutions can impart non-formal education and nobody could stop them from doing that.

“Anyway, the government has insisted that no student should be detained till class 8.

“Moreover, there is a provision that students can join school from class 8 onwards on the basis of their age, taking an entrance test. A transfer certificate is also not required,” he claimed.

He said some parents were approaching the courts to obtain a stay on the government’s move.

Meanwhile, Associated Managements of English Medium Schools in Karnataka secretary general K S Krishna Iyer said he would advise schools to file an appeal before the appropriate appellant authority of the department — in this case the director of primary education — challenging the DDPIs’ derecognition notice.

“The managements agreed that there has been violation of the government rule.

“ Still, they could now give an undertaking that they will strictly follow the rule and seek reaffiliation this year itself,” Iyer also said.

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Affected students will be relocated, says Minister Horatti

Govt set to close 1,420 erring schools
 
DH News Service Bangalore:
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/sep242006/index2058102006923.asp

The State government on Saturday decided to stick to its decision to withdraw its affiliation with 1,420 primary schools across the State that were conducting classes in English despite being told to hold classes only in the Kannada medium.

In a day of hectic developments, which included several back-to-back meetings with education department officials, litterateurs and private managements, the government refused to heed the requests of school managements to allow them to continue to function at least till the end of the academic year in the interest of students.

In fact, the government is now contemplating initiating similar action against 648 more schools that are yet to reply to the show-cause notices served on them for violating the 1994 Government Order (GO) on medium of instruction. Primary and Secondary Education Minister Basavaraj Horatti told reporters that the estimated 2.73 lakh students affected due to the derecognition process would be relocated to nearby schools and a comprehensive plan for accommodating these displaced students would be prepared by October 10.

This would include a mapping of all schools (government, aided and unaided) within a three-km radius of each derecognised school. The relocation process would be monitored by the jurisdictional block education officers. Counselling sessions would also be held to aid in the process. These sessions would be held in all the derecognised schools and the parents of the affected students would be invited to participate. Mr Horatti said the derecognition process would be applicable only to classes 1 to 5, as per the 1994 GO.

Undeterred by the government’s stand, one private managements’ association said they would continue to run their institutions as private tutorials. Another group said they would appeal against the DDPI’s order on derecognition of schools, before the commissioner of public instruction. Mr Horatti said the government would make it obligatory for schools neighbouring the derecognised schools to admit the displaced students. He said the relocated students would be exempted from paying fees and from wearing uniforms. The government would even consider exempting these students from taking examinations, as a one-time measure, if they found it difficult to adapt to their new schools.

The government’s plan was to relocate the students to Kannada-medium schools. However, those who wished to move to English-medium schools could do so on their own. The government would issue such students ‘Transfer Certificates’ mentioning that they had studied in English, he added. Supporting the government decision, Mr Horatti said that the schools had violated the undertaking they had submitted to the government that they would use Kannada as the medium of instruction.

, and therefore, action was being initiated against them. He said the education department held a meeting here on March 29, after which it had issued circulars to all primary schools started since 1994, directing them to compulsorily conduct classes in Kannada. Another circular had been issued in June, before the start of the new academic year. Subsequently, teams from department had visited all those schools and found that 1,420 out of the total 4,711 schools had violated the norms.

The day witnessed five separate meetings, two at Shikshakara Bhavana and three at Vidhana Soudha. While Mr Horatti convened a meeting of all DDPIs at Shikshakara Bhavana, Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy also intervened at one stage and convened an impromptu meeting with the private managements. Litterateurs who met with Mr Kumaraswamy and Mr Horatti during the day supported the government’s move.

THE GOVT DECISION

* No change in govt stand to derecognise primary schools (class 1 to 5) which have violated 1994 GO on medium of instruction.

* Displaced students to be relocated in nearby schools.

* Zone-wise school mapping to be done by Oct 10.

* Relocation of students through counselling

* Uniform, fee exemption for displaced students in new schools. Examination exemption if required.

*It will be mandatory for schools, including unaided institutions, to admit students.

Managements’ stand

* Allow schools to continue till the end of the academic year

* Schools to appeal to the Director of Primary Education to allow them to function

* If the government does not budge, the schools will function as “tutorials”; Rules permit this

* Transfer certificate is not a must to secure admission after 8th standard

* Parents may approach court to get a stay on the derecognition process

September 24, 2006 Posted by | Bangalore, Karnataka and Kannada, Nanjundappa Report | 2 Comments

Bangalore: English medium schools under attack

Bangalore: English medium schools under attack

http://mytimesmyvoice.indiatimes.com/

Infotech czar N R Narayana Murthy emphasised the need for more English medium schools at a panel discussion which was part of TOI’s Refresh Bangalore campaign. But going by the current state of affairs, his plea has fallen on deaf ears.

The state government, citing an order passed in 1994, is clamping down on schools that use English as a medium of instruction despite having only a licence to run a Kannada medium school. Their shutting down of these schools, however, has inconvenienced lakhs of students.

The authorities are merely doing their job, one might think. But the situation begs the question, “Why was the rule flouted?” The answers range from corruption to flawed policies, out of tune with the aspirations of an upwardly mobile populace.

While on the one hand, the government calls for a bigger slice of the IT pie for resident Kannadigas, it forces down policies that are blatantly opposed to realising this demand. In this era of globalisation, English is clearly a global language and one that is required to succeed in this world. The fact that 9 out of 10 candidates applying for IT jobs get rejected owing to poor English communication skills should say it all.

Should the government shut down these schools?

Resident Editor, The Times of India, Bangalore

PS: You may also SMS or email your views. Mail us on mytimesmyvoice@timesgroup.com with ‘English’ mentioned in the subject line. To SMS, type MTMV, leave a space, type ENG, type YES or NO along with your name, and sms to 8888.

Posted on Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:24 PM

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    Hi,
    For intelligent people, learning english itself is not a problem at all. It could be learnt in any age. Only those people who are not capable enough to learn are speaking against learning Kannada in schools. Some body has commented that Bangalore is famous because of English speaking people. Remember it is the Kannadigas who can speak english the best than any other regional communities. Learning through mother tongue will certainly put any person on right track, and later he can learn any other language. It is not only the language, even the culture, nativity could be taught well only through the local language. If a Kid starts learning alien language, then what passion would he/she have on this land? If somebody is telling that their house keeping employees want their Kids to learn in English medium, why can’t he arrange for special classes for them? Government rule has to be accepted by everyone. Who ever can’t abide these rules, can go to any other state, where they think that rules are to their liking.

    Thanks,
    Guru

    Posted by C M Guruprasad @ 9/24/2006 10:58 AM

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    ANDHER NAGRI ———- CHAUPAT RAJA

    Posted by Gope Lalwani @ 9/24/2006 10:06 AM

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    Sub – English medium schools under attack

    A child’s expression of its idea, creativity,debating capability is basically in its mother tongue be it Kannada, telugu,tamil, hindi or be it any language.

    It is necessary for the school to provide that environment.

    A state’ culture or best understood in the local language and hence till the formative years are over the local language or the mother tongue of the child should be practised for building the creativity, expreesion of thought process and for that the schools should have multiplr language option till the vocaballary of english is developed in a child.

    The heritage/history/culture are best described in the local language and it should be a part of education atleat if not for examination/scores purpose

    Posted by V.Balaji @ 9/24/2006 6:05 AM

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    This kind of moov suggests that there was no proper research or analysis done while passing this order. Decision of karantaka Govt. is for encouraging and saving the kannada language from extinct but they could have made the lang as compulsion till 5th grade along with english as normal 3rd language ,changing the medium of schools itself is aristrocacy. The development of the banglore a.l.a karanataka is hugely cos of english spoken population and also there is large no . of population from different cities who made their base as Blore and who wld wish their children to learn english .This moov is definetly goin to affect Karnataka’s economic growth very badly .Its just like what has happened to the previous issue of banning other language movies in karnataka which was a flop story

    Posted by Souju @ 9/23/2006 11:38 PM

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    Hi,
    Kannadigas should understand the value of kannada language, if the childrens donot learn atleast some basics of kannada, i think we are making some injustice to our childrens. Many indian culture has been westernised and again brought back to india in the name of western culture.Any how people learn other languages as per their requirement.Then why we have to force the childrens to learn english? Are the socity sure that these childrens only communicate with english countries.Now s/w engineers going to japan/germany…then why not those languages!!!

    Posted by Nagaraj.S @ 9/23/2006 11:34 PM

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    Hi, can someone provide the list of these schools in Bangalore?

    Thanks,
    Ganesh

    Posted by Ganesh @ 9/23/2006 8:19 PM

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    Hi,
    I think the move is good. They have done the right think by tellng those schools to shut the door. Hats off to you Mr. Horatti. These non-kannadigas, can never understand our sensitivity. They want enjoyement. If they want english, tamil or hindi, tell them to go to other places of india. If they don’t like our language and our culture, “Just get lost..”. We know how to survive!!!!

    Posted by Nimma Vinu @ 9/23/2006 1:57 PM

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    India exists only because of english and India does not come forward if english is not taught is just a foolish thought and shows the lack of confidence in our own self.

    Posted by KEERTHI @ 9/23/2006 1:28 PM

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    Mr.CM

    Karnataka Govt. rarely thinks about kannada and karnataka and when it thinks and comes out to do some thing for saving its culture and language people start topics regarding hunger, globalization, Nationality, hunger, cruelity etc etc. same people do not raise their voice when people of Karnataka do not get their due rights in job prospectus, when there is a river water problem, when the supremacy of their language is challenged by other languages, when there is a border dispute or for any other thing. Outsiders who come to karnataka are only interested in their well being they do not care about the feelings of the localites. Karnataka is a self sufficient land and by making english a compulsory medium of instruction in primary schools its improvement will not be curbed.

    Posted by vishu @ 9/23/2006 12:38 PM

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    How Can India be on the Global Map? Yet the same Politician’s pay huge donations to get their Children into Christian Schools and Colleges teaching good English!!! Why can’t they just send their children to Kannada medium schools..At this rate, Our country is never, I mean Never , going to get beyond being a third world country.
    People are dying of hunger and animals are treated cruelly and the wonderful politician’s can only think of a “Language” …Makes Sense anyone?

    Posted by C.M @ 9/23/2006 11:47 AM

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    Ms.Archana

    What ever you have told is impractical. Such a situation can never occur. See our neighbouring states Maharashtra, Tamilnadu and Andhra Pradesh. Primary education is in the child’s mother tongue. Not many people will opt for CBSE/ICSE schools as there is no gurantee that children who study in CBSE schools become more intelligent and those who study state syllabus become dull head. change your individual attitude and the world will also change. I had my primary education in Kannada but later I switched over to English from high school onwards. Now I am working as an Assistant manager in a MNC. I have also passed the UPSC prelimnary examination and waiting for the main exams. I do not have any problems with English. If you want your child to be very fluent in English then you can send him/her to English speaking courses which are in plenty. The main concern at present is to save our language this is possible only by making our children use more and more kannada in their lives.

    Posted by Sandhya @ 9/23/2006 10:29 AM

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    great so…the politicians hav come up with something new….people are literallydying in our country ….poverty and famines are widespread…bomb blasts are common …but the onjlyu f++king thing that the govt is concernered is effect of english…..

    truly our nation and its politicians are great…

    Posted by aj @ 9/22/2006 11:20 PM

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    Government’s move to close down schools teaching english will eliminate kannada totally. the reason is there

    will be no parents who will send their kids to schools which have kannada as a medium of instruction.Even a

    housemaid wants her kids to go to a english medium school.The government need not even use police force to

    close down schools. The schools will automatically shutdown since no parents will admit their children in such

    schools.Then where will government implement its rule. Karnataka will be left with only ICSE and CBSE schools

    without kannada.

    We parents want our children to learn kannada.Let kannada be the compulsary first language. Let kids

    learn maths, environmental science and english also. we parents have admitted our children in such

    schools,because we want our children to learn kannada.If government brings such rules, we who are kannadigas

    will be forced to admit our childern in ICSE or CBSE board schools. Then what will happen to kannada,
    If all parents decide to change to ICSE or CBSE.

    when we were young, we had only state syllabus schools. We had not heard of ICSE at all. But when it

    comes to admitting our kids , we find there are no state syllabus schools at all. we had to literally hunt for

    a school that taught kannada to admit our children. But what happened now is that the government is shutting

    these scools. It would have been a easy optin to admit our kids to ICSE schools.

    The reason for so many ICSE and CBSE schools in bangalore is because of the government rule. Schools

    which started after 1994 who wanted english as medium of instruction, could not do this with the state

    governments conditions. So they opted for ICSE. Most of the schools in bangalore have ICSE for calss 1 to 7.

    then they give students an option to choose State or ICSE. why ? because of the state government rules. The

    government is responsible for this .

    Now if the government shuts schools ,then kannada wont remain. It is best to teach kannada as a

    compulsory subject with english as the medium of instruction . Because parents want it like that.

    Posted by archana @ 9/22/2006 10:25 PM

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    Hey Syed Sahil, its really a heart breaking that you are a kannadiga who speaks against Kannada. I dont know what you get by all these racist comments on Kannada. I never expected and heard such comments by a Kannadiga against Kannada. Your attitude clearly shows why Bangalore has become a anti-kannada city. Its just people like you who made Kannada poor in its own birth place.

    Posted by Santosh_ proud to be a Kannadiga @ 9/22/2006 9:35 PM

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    exactly mr santosh
    karnataka has schools which teach english but all those schools got license before 1994. only schools started after 1994 are punished , why this change of outlook and discrimination? let there be english and kannada medium in all schools let the parents decide wat their children should learn

    Posted by syed sahil @ 9/22/2006 8:28 PM

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    chill out kala
    i just wanted to tell wat i felt iam a kannadiga myself and i have studied kannada in school even though i had the option if studing hindi. i just told my opinion and i apologies to all who think iam wrong and as far as my coments are conserned i think all should read mr raj’s reply in which he says “As per the UNESCO report Kannada is in the 28th position in the list of languages which are on the verge of becoming extinct”

    Posted by syed sahil @ 9/22/2006 8:24 PM

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    Mr.Syed Sahil

    It is heart breaking to see that a person from such a family speaking so cheaply about the generosity & Hospitality of the Kannadigas. O.K. Mr.Sahil We shall not support the govt. We shall stage a dharana and ask the govt. to give permission to start only English medium schools, we shall see that our children do not utter a single word in kannada. We shall westernize them and instigate them against kannada and they should not think about kannada even in their dreams. We shall tell our remaining kannada people who are in bangalore to sell their lands and go to rural areas making way for outsiders. We shall support featuring of films of all languages except Kannada, Why only in the border areas even in Bangalore we shall ask people to write the name boards in what ever language they want except kannada. We shall build a greater Bangalore where there shall be no place for kannada and kannada people. We shall strike kannada from right, left and centre and shall not rest untill the language, culture and people are destroyed.
    We shall write a letter to the British people and bow in front of them and thank them for giving such a wonderful language which helps our children become Grrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaatttttttt

    Posted by Kala @ 9/22/2006 8:06 PM

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    Hello Syed Sahil, Because of people like you British ruled India for centuries. People like you come to Karnataka because your state does not provide you bread and butter and you never enjoy this luxury in your state. If you think Kannada has no hold in Karnataka then you are a big DUMB. We Kannadiagas have built the Bangalore and not the IT companies. If you think government does not issue license to run English medium school then how come there are so many English medium schools which have license to run schools in English medium? If you think studying in English medium gives you a better job and you get respect if you speak in English then for you kind information I studied in KANNADA medium school and currently working in a MNC and traveled to 5 different countries including US and Germany. Many of my friends who studied in English are still searching for better jobs. We protest against non-Kannada activities is just to preserve our culture and language. And India is known for its languages and cultures and not for English speaking people. Learn to give respect to our country’s languages and cultures. Developed countries in Europe use their own languages for education and for all activities and not your favorite English. Before commenting on Kannada, search your own identity. Your racist comment shows how INSANE you are. If you do not like Karnataka then go back to your state and if your poor state does not provide you a better job then go and settle yourself in a country where people speak your favorite English only. Jai Kannada, Jai Bharat.
    E-mail: ed_santosh@yahoo.co.in

    Posted by Santosh_ proud to be a Kannadiga @ 9/22/2006 7:48 PM

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    Dear SRR ,

    You say that you are a kannadiga and instead of supporting the govt. in implementing kannada from grass root level you are just against the decision. If we do not teach kannada for our own children then who else will teach. You say that the government is forcing the medium of instruction then what else do you want them to do? The love for english is so intense in our people that they go to the level of saying that Bangalore, Karnataka & India will develop only if English is made mandatory in schools. I have seen many people who have studied in Kannada medium till 10th standard and are today working as Engineers, Doctors and Managers. You say that forcing Kannada as a medium of instruction is impractical. As per the UNESCO report Kannada is in the 28th position in the list of languages which are on the verge of becoming extinct. If the Govt. does not act now and make the children learn Kannada and continue to use it in future days to come how will the language survive from the onslaught of english. How can you be so mean that you wish to see the death of your language in front of your own eyes.
    come out from the clutches of English and use kannada, save kannada and promote kannada for future generation.

    Posted by Raj @ 9/22/2006 7:47 PM

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    hey anuradha and kannadiga
    just for the sake of argument let me inform u iam syed sahil my grand father is from magadi, my great grand father was a wrestler in the court of kempegowda ( the same guy who founded bangalore) plz dont make joke of urself by calling me a outsider just becos of my name and my community.

    Posted by syed sahil @ 9/22/2006 6:29 PM

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    Ms Anuradha, citizen, vishwanth and the kannadiga. Please do not make this forum a plank for chauvinism.
    Nobody is questioning the right of kannadigas to learn or further the cause of kannada. I being a kannadiga am all for kannada being taught in schools. But forcing it to the medium of instruction is impractical.
    A practical approach wherein the aspirations of the common man for English education as well as the need to promote kannada are both met, is the only solution for this mess.

    By using abusive language you are only harming the cause of kannada and kannadigas rather than doing it any good.

    Posted by SRR @ 9/22/2006 5:45 PM

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    I completely agree with Mallikarjuna. Primary education has to be given in the child’s mother tongue only. This makes him or her understand the subject better. English being a foreign language should be treated as a slipper and should be worn when we walk outside our houses (only to communicate with the outsiders when needed) It should not be taken into pooja room (need not be used at all places). Many english speaking courses are available and more over if the child is taught in English from 5th Standard onwards it is more than enough.

    Posted by A Citizen @ 9/22/2006 4:35 PM

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    It is a very good decision by the govt. This decision had to be taken 15 years back itself which could have prevented people from other states flocking to Bangalore and making this place a mess. It is time for Kannadigas to stand by the Govt. and support its decision. Its high time we stand up to save our language and culture.

    Posted by viswanath @ 9/22/2006 3:45 PM

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    People who come here for food and shelter without having the capacity to earn their livelihood in their places and speak about Kannada and Karnataka. It is our children who are going to study here and it is we people who have to decide which medium our children should study in. Why are these outsiders poking their noses in the internal affairs of Karnataka. Finish you jobs and F*** off from this place.

    Posted by Kannadiga @ 9/22/2006 3:37 PM

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    Kannada language can never become obsolete. I think that outsiders feel that way because kannadigas are peace lovers and have tolerated all languages and when an outsider speaks in his own language our people never tell/compel him to speak in Kannada this has been a mistake by kannadigas for which they are paying. Some people speak about IT hubs. Bangalore was founded by a kannadiga and it has given birth to the IT companies and IT companies/Bigwigs have not built Bangalore. Kannada is here to stay and the people of Karnataka know how to fight against all these odds. Just because Kannadigas are silent it does not mean that Kannadigas have sold all their lands in Bangalore and have gone to rural areas leaving the city to be ruled by outsiders. Karnataka has never been ruled by an outsider. How many areas do you know in Bangalore? You see Tamil, Telugu, Kerala in Border areas because kannada people never objected to such things. They never knew that people like you would consider this as the weakness of kannadigas. Better late than never People here have understood the true colour of outsiders like you hence they are trying to be extra careful and have decided not to repeat their old mistakes. Better watchout.

    Posted by Anuradha @ 9/22/2006 3:32 PM

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    Mr. Chief Minister, your Horatti is going inthe woring root. Your govt will be responsible. only problem for middle class people.Higher class pepole children is going to ICSE/CBSE School.

    Posted by Varadaraju.L @ 9/22/2006 2:00 PM

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    first ordering kannada boards and name plates on shops and commecial establishments, then ordering non-kannada movies to be released 7 weeks after its release worldwide and now closing schools teaching english? whats wrong with the goverment? if by doing this the govenment thinks that it is helping bangaloreans or kannada language then i have to inform the ill-informed goverment authorities that the kannadigas or the true bangaloreans its trying to help have already sold their bangalore and their properties to north indians and they have run away to outskirts and rural areas.
    the goverment does not issue license to start a english medium school so people willing to start a school have to opt kannada medium license, just put urself in their shoes, even though running a school is a kind of social service we have to know that there are expenses to be beared and all these people tooo have families to feed , now who will get there children admitted to a school teaching kannada? kannada a language which does not have a strong hold in karnataka its birth place. i mean go to karnataka – tn border u’ll see people speaking tamil even before tamil nadu starts, go to karnataka – andra border, u’ll see people speaking telgu, same holds true to malayalam near kerla and marati in north karnataka.
    i feel kannada is a obsolete language which evolution is trying to kill and these so called “care takers” of kannada are trying to go against nature and evolution.
    some day dont be surprised if these people order people to use kannada windows and kannada internet. and who knows they may someday order all english daily news papers to compulsoryly print their front pages in kannada.
    and may be they can order rahul dravid to speak only in kannada on stage if india wins world cup next year.

    Posted by syed sahil @ 9/22/2006 1:17 PM

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    I dont get what the hue and row all about??
    When these kannadigas fight for prioritizing them for job consideration how come they neglect the fact that Bangalore is now an IT hub where companies have been investing for work not for silly things like this.While the country lies in the threat of so many dreadful terrors, people make a mountain out of mole. And that is the reason why India never seems to progress.Too many diversified cultures will one day repeat history of the India-Pak division following civil wars. When we are all Indians, why fight over petty things like this?

    Posted by A citizen @ 9/22/2006 11:37 AM

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    India has its own Identity. It is a land of many languages and cultures. I dont know why people act as if they cannot survive without english. English is required only for the sake of job prospects and also as a mode of communication which can be taught at a higher level but our mother tongue shoud go deep into the hearts of our children it should penetrate into the every nerves and fibres of an individual only then he/she can have an identity of an Indian. All this hue and cry shows the level of western influence on our culture and minds of the people. One person says India will not move forward without Enlish. One speaks about globalisation/liberatlisation. One person says if a child does not know english he is as good as an illiterate. No student has become an expert just by studying in english medium and that too in the primary level. The above said IT czar Narayan Murthy had his primary education in Kannada medium and later on switched over to english medium.

    Posted by KEERTHI @ 9/22/2006 11:32 AM

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    People speak as if the world has come to an end and India will not come forward Just because english(a foreign language)is not taught and english medium schools are shut down. Narayan murthy never said that all schools should be in English medium. He only said that english should be taught from primary level. The govt. has decided to shut down the schools who have taken permission to open kannada medium schools and have signed an affidavit but are imparting english education. These school authorities have cheated the parents and children and have taken them for a ride.
    A child should be taught in his own mother tongue so that he can understand the subject better and as far as english is concerned it can be taught as one of the subject in the curriculum till 5th standard and later on he can switch over to English fully.

    Posted by Mallikarjuna @ 9/22/2006 11:13 AM

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    Mr. Chief Minister, your education minister is going in the wrong direction. Your government will be responsible for eliminating Kannada from Karnatakat although the stated objective is other way. All parents/schools will switch to ICSE/CBSE, where will Kannada gain.

    I request you on behalf of all the parents to take immediate corrective action.

    The practical idea is to ensure all schools also teach Kannada as a subject.

    Posted by Ramesh Gopalakrishna @ 9/22/2006 9:27 AM

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    This is a decision which resets the development clock by a huge margin. When the country is in the peak of liberalization/globalization I wonder how people can even think of such impractical decisions.

    Posted by Vijaya Harinath @ 9/22/2006 9:12 AM

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    My husband choose to admit our children to a non-ICSE/CBSE school as he liked children to learn Kannada instead of Hindi. He is repenting now for the decision.

    This is totally impractical decision. Government should allow this academic year to go through so that we can switch to practical education for our children.

    Hopefully all schools are thinking how to switch over to ICSE/CBSE and we will not have to put our children to hardship.

    Posted by Archana Krishnamurthy @ 9/22/2006 9:11 AM

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    This is totally a impractical, illogical decision. People holding important decision making positions which is responsible for shaping the future citizens of the nation should be visionaries and think long term and have larger interests in mind.

    Education minister thinks he is helping Kannada, but no practical thinking parent would want his/her children to learn only Kannada. The result will be that ICSE/CBSE schools thrive, most schools will switch over to English and Kannada schools will be closed down.

    Minister is doing a great disservice to the cause of Kannada by his impractical action.

    Posted by Vedantha Yajaman @ 9/22/2006 9:05 AM

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    What is at stake here. The 1400+ schools were registered as Kannada schools. These schools have violated an order. It is the management of the schools who have violated. The simplest solution would be to levy a fine of say Rs 10 lakhs or more per school with the proviso that the schools will not pass on the buck to the students. This fine will amount to Rs 140 crores which money can be ploughed back into the rural school infrastructure

    Posted by Ashok Balaji @ 9/22/2006 5:09 AM

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    think about what those kids must be thinking who wuld be deserted.. what pathetic feelings of resentment and anger and frustration the gonna harnour in their hearts on being moved from comfortable and lovely private schools to Govt. schools.
    who does not have good memories of theirm schools.. the more beautiful your school the more beautiful your memories of ur school life..

    Posted by xyz @ 9/21/2006 10:49 PM

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    I think govts. decision is most unfortunate and uncalled for because govt lacks vision.English is the most important language today and opposition to its study is nothing short of crime and this govt is committing crime.India is a land of multiple languages and to link all Indians with each others is a very difficult task and english is only language which is doing this. Another very important thing is employment in this world of compition if you don’t know english you don’t have job.so will the govt.amend its ways.

    Posted by G H MIRZA @ 9/21/2006 10:15 PM

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    there should be more sincereness in the govt and it is the main root of cause in all cases

    Posted by amit thakre @ 9/21/2006 7:11 PM

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    The education minister has been giving statements that the action is in the interest of the students. I am puzzled as to what logic is the honorable minister using in order to come up with such statements.
    I do not understand how this move will benefit lakhs of students who would be forced to move to a different school and medium of instruction in middle of an academic year. Does the government have sufficient infrastructure to accomodate so many students?
    Does the honorable minister mean to say that he understands the needs of the students better than the parents?
    I believe most of the parents would agree that it is very essential for those staying in Karnatka to learn kannada. Nobody would object to Kannada language being taught as one of the compulsory langauges or even the first language in the schools. However forcing the medium of instruction to be kannada makes no sense in the current order. We should come to terms with the fact that English is the global langauge and we need to teach the kids in English. A kid learning in kannada till 4th std will not be in a position to start studying in English from 5th std onwards.
    The fact that the Education officials have been turning a blind eye towards this trend of english medium of education all these years points clearly that the language policy is flawed and illogical.
    IF parents want their kids to learn in English medium, they should get english medium.
    The government should focus on more important things like prosecuting the corrupt officials caught by Lok Ayukta rather than giving sleepless nights to the very parents who have brought them to power.

    Posted by Satish R @ 9/21/2006 5:53 PM

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    Goverment action against primary schools will KILL KANNADA

    Many parents like me have choosen these schools because these schools teach Kannada as well as English. It would have been a EASY decision to admit children to schools which teach only English and it needs enoromous LOVE for KANNADA to admit children to schools which teach KANNADA also. Government in its current thinking is even affecting schools which teach ENGLISH in addition to KANNADA and this is a HUGE retrograde step. This will make most parents to switch to schools which teach only ENGLISH. AND THERE WILL BE NO SCHOOLS LEFT TO TEACH KANNADA. AND THIS WILL HURT KANNADA and KANNADIGAS.

    The parents need to prepare their children for tomorrow and everyone cannot become a farmer or take up a job which does not need any communication. Everyone knows what is driving the job market today and what are the requirements. A country like China is making all efforts to get the people in China to learn English as a compulsory subject our government is taking a retrograde step of setting Karnataka and India behind by several years and loose the competitive edge in the globalization scenario.

    It is the parents who need to decide what languages need to be studied and NOT THE GOVERNMENT. Government instead of dictating what languages to be taught should ENSURE that INTEREST of KANNADA is protected by ensuring all schools also teach KANNADA (including CBSE AND ICSE , INTERNATIONAL SCHOOLS in the state). IT SHOULD PLAY A ENABLING ROLE TO ENSURE ALL SCHOOLS HAVE FACILITIES needed to run the school productively and ensure children are educated in the best way possible.Most learned men know that languages are best learnt when the children are young and this skill need to be utilized to the best extent. Government should ensure all the institutions also teach Kannada and should not put any restriction on the schools to teach additional subjects and languages.

    Also, the way government is taking action is most uncalled far and it looks like the government has decided to cause trouble to all the parents in KARNATAKA who have young children. Government should have taken initiative to publish the list at the beginning of the year.

    IT IS VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE GOVERNMENT AND IS ACTING WITHOUT A VISION – WHILE ON ONE BREADTH THE CHIEF MINISTER WANTS TO INTRODUCE ENGLISH EDUCATION IN RURAL AREAS, EDUCATION MINISTER WANTS TO ELIMINATE SCHOOLS TEACHING ENGLISH.

    Blog : karnatakaschools.blogspot.com.

    Posted by Ramesh Gopalakrishna @ 9/21/2006 11:49 AM

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    The government shouldn’t shut down the schools on the basis of medium. English is the largely spoken language in the world. Most of the valuable books, ideas and thoughts are communicated in this language. If the person doesn’t know English, however he is erudite, he/she is still can be considered as illiterate as he/she fails to communicate to the larger community. Government should realise this fact and make the policies accordingly.

    Posted by KS Chinnam @ 9/20/2006 6:04 PM

September 24, 2006 Posted by | Bangalore, Karnataka and Kannada, Nanjundappa Report | 1 Comment

About KGP and it’s background info::KGP website misrepresents facts:: WHAT A SENSLESS WAY WASTING KANNADIGAS TIME.

—– Original Message —–

From: NovaMed@aol.com

To: ; kmharsha@hotmail.com ; anand@cyberscapeindia.com

Cc: raghavbh@anz.com ; anilthalli@yahoo.com ; dksesh@hotmail.com ; ksnaveen@indiatimes.com ; ksn_india@yahoo.com ; ladu@isac.ernet.in ; ramesh_naidu_v@yahoo.com ; srivathsajoshi@yahoo.com ; brnag@isac.ernet.in ; janardhana_cs@yahoo.com

Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 9:06 AM

Subject: REPLY from Srinatha Shastry of KGP

namaskara kannadigarige

Today I received this letter from Sri Srinatha Shastry of KGP. Sri. Panditharadhya had written the same thing 10 days ago. He has sent a such a one pargraph information as a word attachment.

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Forwarded Message:

Subj: From C V S Sastry

Dear Sri Kumaraswamy,

Namskaragalu. Please see the attached file.

Thanking you

Yours

C V Srinatha Sastry

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No kannadiga need to visit KGP website to find the answer. KGP website is having ILLEGAL information. When I visited their website they have copied information to their website from another website. KGP website misrepresents facts. Kannadigas need to be AWARE of this. Just like all kannadigas are answering openly for questions KGP and it,s Executives need to the same. THIS IS CALLED as stalling tactics in LAW.

THEY ARE AFFRAID of things that have taken place in KGP while Developing Kannada Software or WHILE they received information from other Kannada Software Developers for Certification of their Software.

WHAT A SENSLESS WAY WASTING KANNADIGAS TIME.

GoK recognised KGP only because of other KANNADIGAS were part of the KGP TEAM.

In all its reality KGP is not qualified for developing Kannada software on the following grounds:

ABOUT KGP / KAGAPA


1. KGP was not existing for three years prior to sanctioning funds.
2. KGP has not developed any software prior to sanctioning of funds.
3. KGP is a certifying agency according to GO of GoK. This happenned because other kannadigas were involved with them at that time. They are nolonger involved with KGP. KGP has kicked tem out without any reasons.

A certifying agency itself can't enter into development of competitive products which they are supposed to certify as it is most illogic like a referee, umpire or an examiner himself taking the competition by himself.


THEY ARE THINKING KANNADIGAS WILL NOT COME TOGETHER AND KGP COULD WAIT IT OUT. this is not going to happen.

ONE of the reason for doing this might be due to the following reason as written in an email by Mr. N. Anabarsan to all of us.

“KGP doesn’t have any expertise in developing software. KGP has developed Nudi in a clandestine manner. As KGP is the certifying agency, all the Kannada software developers have submitted their software. KGP gained inner details by means of demonstration and discussions etc with developers (please note that GoK has not disclosed any details on developing their Kannada software Nudi). KGP pirated the fonts submitted to it by various Kannada software developers.”

It looks like KGP and it’s Executives are not interested in solving the problems of Kannadigas and KANNADA. They are taking confrontational attitude.

Kannadigas we need to think of different alternatives to combat this KGP and it’s Executives. This has allready started. KANNADA Interested, Truth telling, factfinding, honest people, trustworthy, loyal people, have got together ONLY for the sake of Finding the truth on Developmental activities of Kannada Software by KGP and it’s Executives. A meeting was called on May 25th 2004 by Dr. Halemane of CIIL at Mysore.

The people who attended the meeting on May 25th according to Dr. Halemane are:

Shri Poornachandra Tejaswi
Dr Lingadevaru Halemane
Sri B N S Rama
Sri M Shivakumar
Shri C V Srinatha Sastry
Smt Sharada
Dr Panditharadhya
Shri A Sathyanarayana
Dr U B Pavanaja

Some of you might have received an email that I received from Sri. Poornachandra Tejasvi.

We should seek the advise of the committed Kannadigas whose interest in KANNADA and it’s development work.

All of you can reply with your suggestions.

Thanks

Sincerely

V. M. Kumaraswamy

September 24, 2006 Posted by | kagapa, Kannada Kali of USA | Leave a comment

Anand S.K. MD of Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd. Akruthi Fonts Developer writes: Quality always comes at a price, so if you pay peanuts all you can hire are monkeys !! “

In a message dated 6/12/2004 5:29:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, anand@cyberscapeindia.com writes:

Namaskara,

I entirely agree with Shri Janardhana regarding the need to hold a meeting of all present and former members like myself to straighten out the matters raised by the various Kannada Computing enthusiasts.

However more important than setting records right and clearing up past injustices is to articulate very clearly, what we intend to do in the future to see the application and growth of Kannada in all electronic and information technology devices. With the convergence of Telecom and IT, many new challenges lie ahead for the growth of language technology, much beyond the PC.

What clearly is the need of the day is a vision statement with a roadmap of what needs to be done and what can be practically achieved the next few years and delegate the responsibilities to interested entities and also debate on how the funds and resources will be raised and distributed amongst the participants and how the milestones and disbursals would be monitored.

My personal opinion is that by involving and depending beyond a point on the Government, either at the state or the centre is a sure recipe for failure and I think we need to muster the resources and support from private sponsors and create viable self sustaining models for future development of Kannada.

I think the task of Kannada implementation in IT and convergence areas is a huge and complex task and needs co-operation from all well meaning Kannadigas and instead of wasting energies on a few wayward individuals or organizations, let us concentrate on the task ahead.

Vandanegalu,

Anand S.K.

M.D.

Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd.

P.S.: As far as specific points raised at the meeting of May 25th at CIIL, Mysore is concerned, these are my personal reactions:

While most of the points were clarified correctly by Pavanaja and others at the meeting, I have comments regarding these:

1. Open Source Initiative: I think no where is the world does an open source initiative depend on either the government or the bureaucracy, the very idea of open source is based on passionate support by individuals and autonomous groups. The moment a government or bureaucracy steps in, the idea is dead. At best outside support from them should be welcome and not a screening commitee under MIT or DIT as suggested.

2. OpenType Kannada Fonts: I think Pavanaja has put it quite rightly, that unless there is an incentive for putting quality Kannada fonts into public domain, no commercial organization like ours which has a wealth of such fonts would be willing to do so. We who have been developing such fonts (AKRUTI) well over two decades would not like a repeat of the experience, we had when our fonts were pirated off the Web and used without acknowledgement, first by an individual who went on to release a free software and then by an organization which followed suit. Unless IPR is recognized and compensated for, you can expect very little to happen. I am also happy to inform that three high quality Opentype fonts in Kannada called Sampige and Mallige and Kedage (developed commercially by us for RCILTS-Kannada, IISC, Bangalore) by us are available in public domain for general usage. More can be done provided proper mechanisms are set in place. ” Quality always comes at a price, so if you pay peanuts all you can hire are monkeys !! “

3. GOK and GOI involvement: I think while it is important to rally around the government to support the efforts to develop Kannada, it is high time we broke out of the “Mai Baap” mentality in the 21st century  to refer every issue to the government or its functionaries and hope that they will solve it for us. I personally feel that if the issue of Kannada usage has to rely on government patronage or is so sick that it needs continual oxygen from the state then it is better for us to administer “Euthanasia” and solve the problem once and for all. Ultimately, it must become commercially viable and necessary to communicate in Kannada whether verbally, textually or electronically for development to happen and be self sustaining. Kannada has survived over 2000 years without any significant State patronage, so let us not be unduly worried that it will die in the electronic medium so soon, especially when the whole world seems to be recognizing that India and more specifically Karnataka and Bangalore will be playing an increasingly greater role on the world stage.

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Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: REPLY from Srinatha Shastry of KGP

> Namaskara,
>
> Why can not we hold a meeting of all the members of
> Kannada Ganaka Parishat including life members, active
> or inactive members. This should help every one to get
> all the clarifications and putting all the documents
> across the table.
>
> This should really help to straighten things if there
> are anything going wrong, if not this will make every
> body aware that things are fine. This helps us in
> pursuing a proper vision for Kannada and Kannada
> computing.
>
> I really don’t want Kannada to suffer, GOK to suffer.
> This type controversies also throw bad light on
> organizational activities and drives people away from
> such work even when they want to do it. I think it
> would be good in all respects if Ganaka Parishat
> executive committee can call for a meeting.
>
> If we have lack of contact information of all the
> members then we can of course advertise in all the
> Kannada dailies.
>
> This is my suggestion to ease the air, take out the
> pollution and increase the health of activities.
>
> If there is anything wrong in my thinking  please
> advise me. Elders – Please guide us.
>
> dhanyavaada,
> Janardhana
>
> — “Dr. U.B. Pavanaja” <
pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>
> wrote:
> > namaskaara,
> >
> > This kind of reply does not suit to the calibre of
> > Chief Secretary of a responsible(?)
> > organisation. How did the committee come to the
> > conclusion that the questions asked are
> > not with any good intension? What are the questions
> > that you have put in the committee?
> > Have you put ALL the mails that were sent to you in
> > front of the committee? What is the
> > guarantee that you have ACTUALLY shown the committee
> > members ALL the mails that
> > have been received by you? If you do really believe
> > in democracy and transperancy, please
> > provide the name(s), phone number(s) and email ids
> > of ALL the committee members who
> > were present in the meeting, so that the questions
> > can be directly sent to those people.
> >
> > dhanyavaadhagaLoMdhige, obba vasthuniShTa kannaDiga.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Pavanaja
> >
> > >
> > > namaskara kannadigarige
> > >
> > > Today I received this letter from Sri Srinatha
> > Shastry of KGP. Sri. Panditharadhya had
> > written the
> > > same thing 10 days ago. He has sent a such a one
> > pargraph information as a word
> > attachment.
> > > —————–
> > > Forwarded Message:
> > > Subj:
> > > From C V S Sastry
> > >
> > > Date:
> > > 6/10/2004 3:07:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> > >
> > > From:
> > >
srinatha_sastry@yahoo.com
> > >
> > > To:
> > >
NovaMed@aol.com
> > >
> > > Sent from the Internet (Details)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Sri Kumaraswamy,Namskaragalu. Please see the
> > attached file.
> > >
> > > Thanking you
> > > Yours
> > > C V Srinatha Sastry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ————————————————————————–
——————————————–
> > ——-
> > >
> > > ªÀiÁ£ÀågÉ,
> > >
> > > ¤ÃªÀÅ PÀ¼ÀÄ»¸ÀÄwÛgÀĪÀ ¥ÀvÀæUÀ¼À£ÀÄß PÀ£ÀßqÀ UÀtPÀ
> > ¥ÀjµÀwÛ£À
> > PÁAiÀÄðPÁj ¸À«ÄwAiÀÄÄ UÀªÀĤ¹vÀÄ.
> > > CªÀÅUÀ¼À°è ¥Àæ¸ÁÛ¦¹gÀĪÀ CA±ÀUÀ¼ÀÄ ¸ÀzÀÄzÉÝñÀ¢AzÀ
> > PÀÆr®è JAzÀÄ
> > ¸À«ÄwAiÀÄÄ C©ü¥ÁæAiÀÄ¥ÀnÖvÀÄ.
> > > F §UÉÎ ¥ÀvÀæªÀåªÀºÁgÀªÀ£ÀÄß £ÀqɸÀ¢gÀ®Ä ¸À«ÄwAiÀÄÄ
> > wêÀiÁð¤¹vÀÄ.
> > >
> > > PÀ£ÀßqÀ UÀtPÀ ¥ÀjµÀwÛUÉ ¸ÀA§A¢ü¹zÀ ªÀiÁ»wUÀ¼ÀÄ
> > PÀ£ÀßqÀ UÀtPÀ ¥ÀjµÀwÛ£À
> > C¢üPÀÈvÀ eÁ®vÁtzÀ°è ®¨sÀå«zÉ.
> > >
http://www.kagapa.org/
> > >
> > > EAvÀÄ
> > > ªÀAzÀ£ÉUÀ¼ÉÆqÀ£É
> > > a « ²æãÁxÀ±Á¹ÛçÃ
> > > ¥ÀæzsÁ£À PÁAiÀÄðzÀ²ð,
> > > PÀ£ÀßqÀ UÀtPÀ ¥ÀjµÀvÀÄÛ
> > >
> >
> ————————————————————————–
——————————————–
> > —-
> > >
> > > No kannadiga need to visit KGP website to find the
> > answer. KGP website is having
> > ILLEGAL
> > > information. When I visited their website they
> > have copied information to their website
> > from
> > > another website. KGP website misrepresents facts.
> > Kannadigas need to be AWARE of
> > > this.Just like all kannadigas are answering openly
> > for questions KGP and it,s Executives
> > need to
> > > the same. THIS IS CALLED as stalling tactics in
> > LAW.
> > >
> > > THEY ARE AFFRAID of things that have taken place
> > in KGP whileDeveloping Kannada
> > Software
> > > or WHILE they received information from other
> > Kannada Software Developers for
> > Certification of
> > > their Software.
> > >
> > > WHAT A SENSLESS WAY WASTING KANNADIGAS TIME.
> > >
> > > GoK recognised KGP only because of other
> > KANNADIGAS were part of the KGP TEAM.
> > >
> > > In all its reality KGP is not qualified for
> > developing Kannada software on the following
> > grounds:
> > > 1. KGP was not existing for three years prior to
> > sanctioning funds.
> > > 2. KGP has not developed any software prior to
> > sanctioning of funds.
> > > 3. KGP is a certifying agency according to GO of
> > GoK. This happenned because other
> > kannadigas were
> > > involved with them at that time. They are nolonger
> > involved with KGP. KGP has kicked
> > tem out without any
> > > reasons.
> > >
> > > A certifying agency itself can’t enter into
> > development of competitive products which they
> > are
> > > supposed to certify as it is most illogic like a
> > referee, umpire or an examiner himself taking
> > the
> > > competition by himself.
> > >
> > > THEY ARE THINKING KANNADIGAS WILL NOT COME
> > TOGETHER AND KGP COULD
> > WAIT
> > > IT OUT. this is not going to happen.
> > >
> > >
> > > ONE of the reason for doing this might be due to
> > the following reason as writtenin an
> > email by Mr.
> > > N. Anabarsan to all of us.
> > >
> > > “KGP doesn’t have any expertise in developing
> > software. KGP has developed Nudi in a
> > > clandestine manner. As KGP is the certifying
> > agency, all the Kannada software developers
> > > have submitted their software. KGP gained inner
> > details by means of demonstration and
> > > discussions etc with developers (please note that
> > GoK has not disclosed any details on
> > > developing their Kannada software Nudi). KGP
> > pirated the fonts submitted to it by various
> > > Kannada software developers.”
> > > It looks like KGP and it’s Executives are not
> > interested in solving the problems of
> > Kannadigas and
> > > KANNADA. They are taking confrontational attitude.
> > >
> > > Kannadigas we need to think of different
> > alternatives to combat this KGP and it’s
> > Executives. This
> > > has allready started. KANNADA Interested, Truth
> > telling, factfinding,honest people,
> > trustworthy,
> > > loyal people, have got together ONLY for the sake
> > of Findingthe truth on Developmental
> > > activities ofKannada Software by KGP and it’s
> > Executives. A meeting was called on May
> > 25th
> > > 2004by Dr. Halemane of CIIL at Mysore.
> > >
> > > The people who attended the meeting on May 25th
> > according to Dr. Halemaneare:
> > >
> > > Shri Poornachandra Tejaswi
> > > Dr Lingadevaru Halemane
> > > Sri B N S Rama
> > > Sri M Shivakumar
> > > Shri C V Srinatha Sastry
> > > Smt Sharada
> > > Dr Panditharadhya
> > > Shri A Sathyanarayana
> > > Dr U B Pavanaja
> > > Some of you might have received an email that I
> > received from Sri. Poornachandra
> > Tejasvi.
> > >
> > > We should seek the advise of the committed
> > Kannadigas whose interest in KANNADA
> > and it’s
> > > development work.
> > >

September 24, 2006 Posted by | Govt. of Karnataka - GoK, KANNADA FONTS | 1 Comment

kannada virodhi tippu!

FROM: r_udupa@yahoo.com
 
DATE: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 04:43:03 -0700 (PDT) 

SUBJECT: Re: [ellaKAVI] kannada virodhi tippu! 


Let me tell u.. this Anantmurthy is a crook.. he told 

Bangalore shd be called Bengaluru as though he has 

discovered something.. he always moves with politicians and 

gets a site in dollar layout and writes some stories posing 

himself as revolutionary.. with all his influence he got 

Jnanapeetha himself.. 


why was bhairappa and gs shivarudrappa left out ?
 _______________

Girish K <gk2031@yahoo.com> wrote:

Vishu mathu Ellarigu:

Naanu saha ee news program nodide.

Ondu mukhya vichara endare: TV Channel navaru ee vishayavannu eleyuvudara begge hechu kalaji vahisiddaru. Allade avariage idannu Kannada bittu Communal aagi badalayisuva bagge bahala aasakti ittu.

Innoo ondu vishaya endare, DHS ge hechchu maatadalu avakaasha kodalilla. Aadare asambaddha maataduttidda Sanjay khan (ivarenu Tippu vannu guttige togondidarenu? )mathu Prof ge bahala samaya koduttiddaru. Adannu nodi nanage nagu haagu sittu eradu bantu.

Allade:

Ee Karnad, Anatha murthy haagu itararu enu Kannadigarannu guttige tegedukondiddaareye ??? Yaake avaru “ella Kannadigaru” endu tamma abhiprayadalli serisabeku?? Ivarannu kelu-vavaru yaaru illave???

Konege ondu maatu:

Akasmat DHS , Tippu badalaagi, Mysore Odeyarige enadru comment maadidre, ide janagalu ondaadru maatu heltidra??? Yaake namma jana heege??

Dhanyavaadagalu,

girikula

vishu <vishuhs@yahoo. com> wrote:

regarding this issue, yesterday there was a discussion
in the TIMES NOW Channel with D.H Shankara Murthy,
Sanjay Khan, B.K Chandra shekhar and a historian Bipin
Chandra.

D.H Shankara Murthy: He reiteriorated that the context
which he made that statement was related to some some
SHIKSHA Bachavo session where he said, during TIPPU”s
regime the court languaged was changed to Persian from
Kannada, which is anti-kannada decision. Also in many
He made this statment based on his readout records of
the British Gazetiers and the writings of some
historians. Also he clearly mentioned its only related
to Tipu’s anti-kannada decision and not against any
religion

But rest 3 people mentioned many things which are
nowhere related to Kannada or Tippus love/contribution
towards kannada. Here is summary of each one of them’s
opinion.

Sanjay Khan: 1)Tippu recovered so many valuable
jewellery belongs to Sringeri Sharadha Peetha. 2)Tippu
introduced the modern land reforms 3) Tippu introduced
Pollution regulatory/control laws – These statments
are Nowhere related to Tippu’s Kannada
Love/contribution.

B.K Chandrashekhar: 1) Tippu recruited plenty of
kannada people in his accounts and admin departments.
2) Its a statement of BJP after disturbing Gujarath,
U.P, Bihar…etc 3) Prof Chidananda Murthy, U.R
Anantha Murthy and many politicians sending their kids
to English Medium Schools. – Again these statement no
where supports Tippus Love/contribution to Kannada.

Bipin Chandra: Being the so called HISTORIAN, he
mentioned things like tippu’s contribution towards
Sringeri math and paralally nonsense things of MALABAR
Region. Also he spoke many other things which are
nowhere related to Karnataka or kannada.

Overall in that entire discussion except D.H Shankara
Murty, everyone else including the Newsroom narrator
talking every bulshit other than Tippu’s contribution
or justification on Kannada. Totally it was a waste
discussion.

danyavadagalu
vishwanath
— Shreeharsha Perla <harshaperla@ gmail.com> wrote:

> bEre dEshagaLiMda baMda kannaDEtara
> raajarugaLiMdaagiyE kannaDakke eegati
> baMtu. Vijaya nagaradaMtaha raajariruttiddare
> heegaaguttiralilla. eegaloo
> anEkaru TippuvannE samarthisuttiddaare .
> simagEnanisuttide?
>
http://www.hindu. com/thehindu/ holnus/004200609 211613.htm
>
> –
> Shreeharsha P



				
                

September 23, 2006 Posted by | Uncategorized | Leave a comment

karnad geke tippu bagge ishtondhu abhimaana?

Shreeharsha Perla <harshaperla@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> bEre dEshagaLiMda baMda kannaDEtara
> raajarugaLiMdaagiyE kannaDakke eegati baMtu. Vijaya
> nagaradaMtaha raajariruttiddare heegaaguttiralilla.
> eegaloo anEkaru TippuvannE samarthisuttiddaare.
> simagEnanisuttide?
>
>
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/004200609211613.htm
>
> --
> Shreeharsha P 

Minister plunges Karnataka Govt. into another row

Bangalore, Sept. 21 (PTI): A remark made by a BJP Minister in Karnataka on Mysore warrior Tippu Sultan questioning his commitment to Kannada during his rule has landed the ruling BJP-JDS coalition in another controversy. The remarks by Minister for Higher Education and senior BJP leader D H Shankaramurthy, a staunch RSS follower, that Tippu Sultan, who ruled Mysore was against Kannada language and promoted Persian, has come under attack from a section of leaders including those from the Muslim community.

Shankaramurthy’s Cabinet colleague and Minister for Labour Iqbal Ansari of JDS has also flayed the minister’s remark. The controversy comes close on the heels of the bribery charge levelled by suspended BJP MLC Janardhana Reddy against Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy and closure of more than 1400 private schools for violating language policy by adopting English as the medium of instruction instead of Kannada for which they were given permission.

Shankaramurthy’s statements have been assuming political overtones, as they drew flak from Congress and Muslim outfits calling for his resignation, a demand the minister has flatly rejected.

Even some Kannada protagonist organisations have flayed the minister’s remarks, which Shankaramurthy has been stoutly defending saying “it was not against the muslim community, but only against Tippu Sultan.” The new controversy may figure in the coordination committee meeting of the BJP and JDS.

September 23, 2006 Posted by | Blogroll, KANNADA | 2 Comments

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