KSRTC Cheetiyalli Kannadavilla!
snEhitare, kannaDa software development bagge anekaru aneka yojanegaLannu hakikolluttiddira. tumba santoshada vishaya. ittichege baLLarige ka.ra.ve samaveshakke hOgiddaga KSRTC busnalli bahaladinagaLa mele prayana maduva avaksha odagi baMtu. nirvahakara baLi beMgalurige cheeti(ticket) koMde. cheeti nOdi dukhavaitu. adu poorna anglamayavAgittu. KSRTC busgaLali cheeti koduva hosa "kai yaMtra" baMdive. nirvahakaru adaralli ottidaaga cheeti mudranavagi barutte. Adare adaralli kannada villa. bahusha adaralli embedded software irabeku annisutte. nanage sariyagi gotilla. Yaradaru adara bagge tilidukoMdu adaralli kannaDa taMtramsha abhivruddi paDisi cheetigaLu kannaDadalli mudranavaaguva haage madabahudu. idannu namma sarkarave madabekittu. hiMde typewriter baruva muMche britishara kaladalli ella adaLitavU kannadadalle ittu. yAvaga English typewriter banto aga kannaDada stahanvannu English padeyitu. iMdu computer kala. eegalu kaala miMchilla. sarvajanikaru upayOgisuvaMtahaa ella kiosk, vyvasthegaLu, billing software ella kannaDadalli barabeku. Linux nalli kannaDa abhivruddhi padisuvudara jothe janapriya Microsoft Windows applications gaLannu kannaDalli abhivruddi padisabekagide. hecchu jana Windows upayogisuvudarinda Kannada windows application abhivruddi baggeyU gamana harisa bEku. Ottinalli yavudE hosa taMtragnyAna baMdaru alli modalu kannaDa mayavagutte. KannaDakke kannaDigaru ottaisadiddare sarkara idara bagge talekedisikolluvudilla. KannaDigaru kannaDa baLasuvudE aparoopavaddarinda iMtaha vishayagaLu yara kannigu iduvaregU biddilla. Addarinda dayavittu kannaDa baLasi, KannaDakke ottaisi, kannaDa Ulisi. vaMdanegaLu saMpige
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Tags: ಪ್ರಚಲಿತ | ಕರ್ತೃ benaka ದಿನಾಂಕ Thu, 17/08/2006 – 10:34
“ಅಗಣಿತ ತಾರಾಗಣಗಳ ನಡುವೆ ಚಂದ್ರಗೆ ಮೆರವಣಿಗೆ….
ಬಾನಲಿ ಚಂದ್ರಗೆ ಮೆರವಣಿಗೆ…..”
ಶಬ್ದಗಾರುಡಿಗ ವರಕವಿ ಬೇಂದ್ರೆಯವರ ಕವನದ ಈ ಸಾಲುಗಳನ್ನು ಮೆಲುಕುಹಾಕುತ್ತಾ ಇರುಳಿನಾಗಸದಲ್ಲಿ ದಿಟ್ಟಿ ನೆಟ್ಟವನಿಗೆ ‘ಹೌದಲ್ಲವೇ’ ಎನಿಸದಿರದು. ಈ ‘ಅಕ್ಷಿನಿಮೀಲನ ಮಾಡುವ ನಕ್ಷತ್ರಗಳು’ ಅಗಣಿತವೆಂಬುದು ಎಲ್ಲರಿಗೂ ಗೊತ್ತು; ಆದರೆ ಕಣ್ಣೆವೆಯಿಕ್ಕದ ಚುಕ್ಕಿಗಳ ಅಂದರೆ ಗ್ರಹಗಳ ಸಂಖ್ಯೆ ಎಷ್ಟೆಂದು ಎಲ್ಲರಿಗೂ ತಿಳಿದಿದೆಯಲ್ಲವೇ. ಸೌರವ್ಯೂಹದ ಮಟ್ಟಿಗಂತೂ ಗ್ರಹಗಳು ಒಂಬತ್ತು ಎಂದು ಎಲ್ಲರಿಗೂ ತಿಳಿದಿದೆ ಎನ್ನುವಿರಾ? ಇಂದಿನಿಂದ ಸೆರೆಸ್, ಶಾರನ್, ಕ್ಸೇನ ಈ ಮೂರನ್ನು ಸೇರಿಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳಿ – ಒಟ್ಟು ಹನ್ನೆರಡು ಗ್ರಹಗಳು! ಅಯ್ಯಯ್ಯೋ ಎಂಥಾ ಕೆಲಸವಾಯಿತು ಸ್ವಾಮೀ, ಇನ್ನುಮುಂದೆ ಅಳಿಯನನ್ನು ಹತ್ತನೇ ಗ್ರಹವೆಂದು ಕರೆಯುವ ಭಾಗ್ಯ ಹೋಯಿತಲ್ಲಾ ಎಂದು ಹೆಣ್ಣುಹೆತ್ತವರು ಪೇಚಾಡಬೇಕೇನೋ! ಹೋಗಲಿ ಹದಿಮೂರನೆ ಗ್ರಹವೆನ್ನೋಣವೇ ಎಂದರೆ, ಊಹ್ಞೂಂ! ಸಾಧ್ಯವಿಲ್ಲ; ಈಗಾಗಲೇ ಮತ್ತೊಂದಿಷ್ಟು ಉಂಡೆಗಳು ಗ್ರಹಗಳಾಗಲು ಕಾಯುತ್ತಿವೆ!
ಯುರೇನಸ್, ನೆಪ್ಚೂನ್, ಪ್ಲೂಟೋಗಳನ್ನು ಗ್ರಹಗಳೆಂದಾಗ ಭಾರತೀಯರು ಯಥಾಪ್ರಕಾರ ‘ತಮಗೆಲ್ಲಾ ಮೊದಲೇ ತಿಳಿದಿತ್ತೆಂಬ’ ವಿಶ್ವವಿಖ್ಯಾತ ಮನೋಭಾವದಿಂದ, ಇಂದ್ರ-ನಿರ್ಋತಿ-ವರುಣ ಎಂದು ಅವಕ್ಕೆ ಹೆಸರಿಟ್ಟು ನಗೆಪಾಟಲಿಗೀಡಾದದ್ದು ಎಲ್ಲರಿಗೂ ಗೊತ್ತಿರುವ ವಿಷಯ. ಈ ಮೂರಕ್ಕೆ ಏನು ಹೆಸರಿಡುತ್ತಾರೋ ನೋಡಬೇಕು! ಮೂರೇನು ಮೂವತ್ತಾಗಲಿ, ರವಿಯ ಸುತ್ತಲೂ ಚೆಲ್ಲಿಕೊಂಡು ಉಂಡೆಗಳಾಗಿ ದಿಕ್ಕಾಪಾಲಾದವಕ್ಕೆಲ್ಲಾ, ದಿಕ್ಪಾಲಕರ ಹೆಸರಿಟ್ಟು ಕೈಮುಗಿದರೆ ಆಯಿತು! ಇನ್ನು ಜೋಯಿಸರ ಪಾಡೇನು? ಹೊಟ್ಟೆಪಾಡಿಗೇನೂ ತೊಂದರೆಯಿಲ್ಲ ಬಿಡಿ; ಹೊಸ ಗ್ರಹಗಳ ದಶಾ-ಭುಕ್ತಿಗಳನ್ನು, ಗೋಚಾರಫಲಗಳನ್ನು ಸೃಷ್ಟಿಸಿ, ಏಳರಾಟ-ಎಂಟರಾಟ-ಸಣ್ಣಾಟ-ದೊಡ್ಡಾಟ ಎಲ್ಲ ಆಟಗಳನ್ನೂ ಆಡಿಸಿ, ತಕ್ಕ ಶಾಂತಿ ಮಾಡಿಸಿಬಿಡುತ್ತಾರೆ! ಅಂತೂ ಸೆರೆಸ್-ಶಾರನ್-ಕ್ಸೇನ ಗಳು ಸದ್ಯದಲ್ಲೇ ಸುರಸಾ-ಶಾರ್ಙ-ವಿಶ್ವಕ್ಸೇನ ಆಗುವುದರಲ್ಲಿ ಅನುಮಾನವೇ ಇಲ್ಲ ಎನಿಸುತ್ತಿದೆ! ಈ ಮಧ್ಯೆ ‘ಒಫಿಯುಕಸ್’ - ‘ಉರಗಧರ’ ಎಂಬ ಹದಿಮೂರನೇ ರಾಶಿಯನ್ನೂ ಸೇರಿಸಬೇಕೆಂದು ಒತ್ತಾಯಿಸುವವರು ಹೆಚ್ಚಬಹುದೇನೋ!
ಜ್ಯೋತಿಷ ತಿಳಿದವರಿಗೆ ಈ ಹಾಸ್ಯ ಮುದನೀಡುತ್ತದೆ:
ಸದಾ ವಕ್ರೀ ಸದಾ ಕ್ರೂರೀ ಸದಾ ಪೂಜಾಮಪೇಕ್ಷತೇ |
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ಸದಾ ಹಿಮ್ಮುಖನಾಗಿ ಚಲಿಸುವ(ವಕ್ರ ನಡೆ-ನುಡಿಯ), ಸದಾ ಶಾಂತಿಪೂಜೆ(ಉಪಚಾರ)ಗಳನ್ನು ಬಯಸುವ
ಸದಾ ಕನ್ಯಾ ರಾಶಿ(ಹೆಂಡತಿಯ ಮನೆ)ಯಲ್ಲೇ ಇರುವ ಅಳಿಯನೇ ಹತ್ತನೆಯ ಗ್ರಹ!
ಇನ್ನು ಈ ಹಾಸ್ಯಕ್ಕೆ ಜಾಗವಿಲ್ಲವೇನೋ! ಅಳಿಯಂದಿರು ನಿಟ್ಟುಸಿರಿಡಬಹುದು! ಒಟ್ಟಿನಲ್ಲಿ, ಕೆಲವರಿಗೆ ಶುಕ್ರದಶೆಯಾದರೆ[ಏಳಿಗೆ], ಹಳೆಯ ಪಠ್ಯಗಳಿಗೆ ಅಷ್ಟಮಶನಿ[ಜೀವಭಯ]!
ಏನೇ ಆಗಲಿ, ಅಳಿಯದೇವರ ‘ಗ್ರಹ’ ಸ್ಥಿತಿ ಅಳಿದದ್ದು ಮಾತ್ರ ಅನ್ಯಾಯ!
ನಿಮ್ಮವ
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benaka | Thu, 17/08/2006 – 12:38
ಗೆಳೆಯರೇ,
ಮೇಲಿನ ಹಾಸ್ಯಕಾವ್ಯದ ತಾತ್ಪರ್ಯದಲ್ಲಿ, ಉದ್ದೇಶಪೂರ್ವಕವಾಗಿ ಅಲ್ಲವಾದರೂ,
‘ಸದಾ ಕ್ರೂರೀ’ = ಸದಾ ಕಷ್ಟನೀಡುವ(ಕಾಟಕೊಡುವ) ಎಂಬುದು ಬಿಟ್ಟುಹೋಗಿದೆ; ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು ಸೇರಿಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳಿ.
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ahoratra | Thu, 17/08/2006 – 16:05
ಸವಿಯಾದ ಹಾಸ್ಯ.
ಅಹೋರಾತ್ರ
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benaka | Fri, 18/08/2006 – 07:54
ಅಹೋರಾತ್ರರೆ,
ನಿಮ್ಮ ಅಭಿಮಾನಕ್ಕೆ ಧನ್ಯವಾದಗಳು! ಎಲ್ಲಿ ಇತ್ತೀಚೆಗೆ ಹೆಚ್ಚಾಗಿ ನಿಮ್ಮ ಬರಹ ಕಾಣದಲ್ಲಾ? ‘ಸ್ವಾತಂತ್ರ್ಯದ ಮಂತ್ರ’ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿದೆ; ಹೀಗೆಯೇ ಬರೆಯುತ್ತಿರಿ.
ಅ.ರಾ.ಮಿತ್ರರೆಂದರೆ ನನಗೆ ನೆನಪಾಗುವುದು ಅವರು ಸದಾ ಹೇಳುವ ಈ ಹಾಸ್ಯ:
ಕತ್ತೆಮರಿ ಚಿಕ್ಕಂದಿನಲ್ಲಿ ಬಹಳ ಚೆನ್ನಿತ್ತು!
ದೊಡ್ಡದಾದ ಮೇಲೆ ಅದರಪ್ಪನಂತಾಗಿ ತಾನೂ ಹಾಳಾಯ್ತು!
ಬರಲೇ,
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benaka | Thu, 24/08/2006 – 07:17
ಇದಪ್ಪಾ ವರಸೆ!
ಹತ್ತನೇ ಗ್ರಹದ ಆಗ್ರಹಕ್ಕೆ ಸಿಲುಕಿ, ನಿಲುಕದಷ್ಟು ದೂರದಲ್ಲಿ ಕಾಯುತ್ತಿದ್ದ ಉಂಡೆಗಳೆಲ್ಲಾ ಪೆಚ್ಚಾಗಿಹೋದವು! ಅವೆಲ್ಲಾ ಗ್ರಹಗಳಾಗುವುದಿರಲಿ, ಮೊನ್ನೆ ತಾನೆ ಗ್ರಹಪೀಠವನ್ನೇರಿದ್ದ ಸೆರೆಸ್, ಶಾರನ್, ಕ್ಸೇನ ಕೂಡ ತಮ್ಮ ಸಿಂಹಾಸನವನ್ನು ಕಳೆದುಕೊಂಡು ಹಿಗ್ಗೆಲ್ಲ ಶಿವಕಾಶಿಯ ಪಟಾಕಿಯಂತೆ ಥುಸ್ಸ್….. !!! ಸಾಲದ್ದಕ್ಕೆ ಮೃತ್ಯುದೇವತೆ ನಿರ್ಋತಿಯ ಹೆಸರಿಟ್ಟುಕೊಂಡ ಪ್ಲೂಟೋದ ಗ್ರಹತ್ವಕ್ಕೇ ಮೃತ್ಯು! ಏನೇನೋ ಬಡಬಡಿಸುತ್ತಿದ್ದೇನೆಯೇ? ಆಗಿದ್ದು ಇಷ್ಟೇ:
ಮೊನ್ನೆ ತಾನೆ ಮೂರು ಗ್ರಹಗಳನ್ನು ಸೌರವ್ಯೂಹಕ್ಕೆ ಸೇರಿಸಿದ ಖಗೋಳತಜ್ಞರು ಇಂದು ಆ ಮೂರಿರಲಿ, ಜೊತೆಗೆ ಪ್ಲೂಟೋವನ್ನೂ ‘ಗ್ರಹ’ ಎಂದು ಪರಿಗಣಿಸಬಾರದೆಂದು ಅಂತರ್ರಾಷ್ಟ್ರೀಯ ಖಗೋಳಶಾಸ್ತ್ರ ಸಹಕಾರ ಸಂಘದ ಅಧಿವೇಶನದಲ್ಲಿ ನಿರ್ಣಯಿಸಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಆದ್ದರಿಂದ ಈಗ ಸೌರವ್ಯೂಹದ ಗ್ರಹಗಳ ಸಂಖ್ಯೆ ಎಂಟು! ಒಂದೆಡೆ ಪಠ್ಯಪುಸ್ತಕಗಳು ಬದಲಾಗುವ ಚಿಂತೆಯಾದರೆ, ಅಳಿಯದೇವರಿಗೆಲ್ಲಾ ಮತ್ತೆ ಗ್ರ-ಹಾ-ಸ್ಯದ ಕಿರಿಕಿರಿ! ಈ ಬಾರಿ ಹತ್ತರಿಂದ ಒಂಬತ್ತಕೇರಿದ ಸ್ಥಿತಿಯಿಂದ ಹಿಗ್ಗುವುದೇನೂ ಇಲ್ಲವೇನೋ! ಯಾವುದು ಗ್ರಹವೆಂಬ ಚಿಂತೆ ಖಗೋಳಶಾಸ್ತ್ರಿಗಳಿಗಾದರೆ, ಇತ್ತ ಜ್ಯೋತಿಷಶಾಸ್ತ್ರಿಗಳಿಗೆ ಗ್ರಹಗಳು ಹೆಚ್ಚದೆ ನಿಶ್ಚಿಂತೆ! ಜೋಯಿಸರೆನ್ನುತ್ತಾರೆ:
“ಅಲ್ಲಾ ಸ್ವಾಮೀ, ಶನಿಗ್ರಹದ ನಂತರ ಬರಿಗಣ್ಣಿಗೆ ಕಾಣದವು ಗ್ರಹಗಳೇ ಅಲ್ಲ! ರಾಹು-ಕೇತುಗಳು ನೆರಳಿನಂತಹ ಬಿಂದುಗಳು; ಇವೆರಡನ್ನೂ ಸೇರಿಸಿ ಒಟ್ಟು ಗ್ರಹಗಳು ಒಂಬತ್ತೇ!”
“ಮತ್ತೆ, ಇಂದ್ರ, ವರುಣ, ನಿರ್ಋತಿ?”
“ಅವುಗಳನ್ನು ಸೇರಿಸಿದ್ದು ಭಾರತೀಯ ಜ್ಯೋತಿಷವಲ್ಲ; ತಿಳಿಗೇಡಿ ಜೋಯಿಸರು!”
“ಉಳಿದ ಗ್ರಹಗಳ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಏನೆನ್ನುತ್ತೀರಿ?”
“ಅವೆಲ್ಲವನ್ನೂ ಅಳಿಯನಲ್ಲಿ ಆವಾಹಿಸಿಬಿಟ್ಟಿದ್ದೇವಲ್ಲ! ಹೆಹ್ಹೆಹ್ಹೆ….” ಎನ್ನುತ್ತಾ ಹಲ್ಲುಕಿರಿದರು!
ಎಂಬಲ್ಲಿಗೆ, ಅಳಿಯನ ಗ್ರಹಸ್ಥಿತಿ ಎಂದೆಂದೂ ಅಳಿಯದೇ, ಪೆಣ್ಪೆತ್ತವರಿಗೆ ಹತ್ತನೆಯ(?) ಗ್ರಹದ ಗ್ರಹಣ ತಪ್ಪಿದ್ದಲ್ಲವೆಂದಾಯಿತು! ಒಂಬತ್ತನೇ ಗ್ರಹವೇ ಇಲ್ಲದಿರುವಾಗ ಹತ್ತನೆಯದೆಲ್ಲೆಂದು ಅಳಿಯನಿಲ್ಲದ ಖಗೋಳಜ್ಞರು ಫಕಫಕನೆ ನಕ್ಕಾರು! ಎಚ್ಚರಿಕೆ ಸ್ವಾಮೀ, ಅಳಿಯಾಟ ಶುರುವಾದೀತು!
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Font issues -Akruti, Baraha and Nudi
by U B Pavanaja,
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Birth of Baraha
I had put up Kannada’s first web-site called Vishva Kannada during Dec. 1996 with the support of S K Anand of Cyberscape. Dynamic font technology was not being used by Vishva Kannada at that time. Akruti fonts were given for download at the web-site. Users have to download the font, install it in their PC and then they could read the Vishva Kannada web-site in Kannada. Sometimes in the first half of 1997, I got an email from Sheshadri Vasu who was at USA. In that mail he appreciated Vishva Kannada. He added that it takes a long time to copy characters through CharMap (an utility present in Windows to copy a glyph of a font into any application) and make a Kannada sentence.
I explained him how to type in Kannada using the keyboard driver which has to be bought from Cyberscape.
I gave the contact details of S K Anand and the approximate price of the software also. Then there was no mail from Vasu for some time. (Recently, during his visit to India in June 2004, Vasu wrote an article for Vijaya Karnataka, wherein he mentioned the discussions he had with me about the relation between font and keyboard driver).
One day I got an email from Vasu saying that he has made a software called Baraha that can be used as an editor for Kannada. He wrote that he wanted to give this software free to everyone. The version sent to me was a beta version. He had actually written an editor for the font he downloaded from the web. I asked him about the copyright of the font. He had not thought anything about that.
I explained to him the he need to take the permission of S K Anand of Cyberscape to use Akruti fonts in his software.
He included the Kan Ballal font which was given to read Udayavani web-site with the first release of Baraha, which was given to some select friends only.
Later on he changed the ASCII values of the glyphs of Akruti font and released the Baraha package officially.
His idea was that just by changing the ASCII values of the glyphs, his font becomes different from Akruti font.
But morally, ethically and legally, this amounts to violation of intellectual property rights.
After a long gap of six years, recently (2004), Vasu admitted that he used the glyphs from Akruti fonts, in a mail to S K Anand.
Fonts used in Nudi
Now let me discuss the about the fonts bundled with Nudi. Nudi was initially thought as a testing software. This was made into a package later on. Myself and Harsha (the programmer who did the coding for Nudi) were opposing the release of Nudi without our own professional fonts. Making a font is an elaborate process. Artists have to draw each character (glyph) on paper, they have to be scanned, digitized, hinted, etc. It takes months for each font. C V Srinatha Sasthry (CVSS), Chief Secretary, Kannada Ganaka Parishat (KGP), told me that he got the font made from someone before submitting the final package to GoK.
In one of the executive committee meeting S K Anand and myself questioned CVSS about who made the fonts, how much was paid to him, etc. G N Narsimha Murthy (GNNM), Secretary, KGP, gave a reply that someone at Koppa made the fonts. I mentioned that KGP should have the complete record of making of the fonts like original drawings by the artist, first raw digitized data, the final font, etc. GNNM promised to get all these from Koppa and show to us in the next meeting. He never bothered to do that.
I came to know about the entire story about fonts much much later. Initially I used to believe the statements of CVSS about the fonts. But it took almost 2 years for me to accidentally discover the truth. While experimenting with opentype font creation, I was studying the glyphs of all Kannada fonts.
When I opened Baraha, Akruti and Nudi fonts in a font editing software, I found that they all have the same glyph sets, even though their ASCII values are different. As Sathyanarayana has detailed in his write-up, the glyphs from Akruti fonts were used in the first version of Baraha, which was then used in the first version of Nudi. As per my knowledge CVSS got this conversion of font encodings done by someone here at Bangalore itself. The fonts were not made from scratch at Koppa. This is clear violation of intellectual property rights. I had a strong and heated argument with CVSS and GNNM about one or two months before the elections to the executive committee of KGP.
I blasted CVSS for misleading me and telling lies to me that the fonts were developed at Koppa. CVSS and GNNM have told lies to me and cheated GoK by supplying them with pirated fonts.
Definitely my position became very awkward that I being the mentor and the person in charge of Nudi in the initial stages was not informed of these backdoor activities by CVSS. I fired both CVSS and GNNM left and right. At that time GNNM even challenged me to prove these in the court along with S K Anand who had already threatened to sue KGP for violation of intellectual property rights.
Vasu’s justification and the realities
With this background let me discuss a bit of what Vasu has written in a document and widely circulated in mailing lists. This document is also present in his Baraha discussion group (groups.msn.com/baraha). Let me quote from this document-
—————– Begin ———————————
USA courts have long back decided that fonts can’t be copyrighted AT ALL! Here, the digital outline can never be protected. According to them there can’t be any original font style, because, every font is created by slightly modifying some other font, and there aren’t really “new” font designs! See the following excerpts from the law…
“The Copyright Office has decided that digitized representations of typeface designs are not registerable under the Copyright Act because they do not constitute original works of authorship. The digitized representations of typefaces are neither original computer programs (as defined in 17 U.S.C. 101), nor original databases, nor any other original work of authorship.”
So, in a font, the name, any programming code not describing the font design are all that can be copyrighted. This leaves the door open in the USA to have anyone pay for the output of each character from a typesetter and re-digitize it or extract the design from a font program (and rename it), easily duplicating the design. Most foundries have very similar fonts derived from work largely designed by others. More information about font/copyright can be found at http://ssifonts.com/Myths.htm
———————- End —————————-
Vasu is very cleverly and conveniently quoting from a web-site put up in the year 1997 and has not been updated afterwards.
There is a reason for this site not being updated afterwards. This refers to the classic legal battle between Adobe and SSI. Southern Software Inc. (SSI) used to copy and rename fonts from Adobe and others. They thought they were safe from prosecution because, though they had directly copied the points that define the shapes from Adobe’s fonts, they had moved all the points just slightly so they were not technically identical. Nevertheless, in his 1998 judgment, the judge determined that the computer code had been copied:
The evidence presented shows that there is some creativity in designing the font software programs. While the glyph dictates to a certain extent what points the editor must choose, it does not dictate every point that must be chosen. Adobe has shown that font editors make creative choices as to what points to select based on the image in front of them on the computer screen. The code is determined directly from the selection of the points. Thus, any copying of the points is copying of literal expression, that is, in essence, copying of the computer code itself.
SSI lost the legal battle at the courts. Judgment was in favor of Adobe. Hence SSI did not update their web-site. Vasu is conveniently quoting from this web-site. One can read in detail about this case in the following web-sites:-
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.ph…UNESCO_Font_Lic
http://directory.serifmagazine.com/Ethics_…/judgement.php4
http://www.ipcounselors.com/19980309.htm
When we conducted a opentype font workshop at Bangalore during March 2003, there was a talk on IPR issues related to fonts by Lawrence Liang, who is an expert on cyber laws. He had discussed this Adobe vs SSI case.
Vasu’s interview to Deccan Herald and my comments
Vasu gave an interview to Deccan Herald during his visit to Bangalore in June 2004. Here are some excerpts and my comments on them:-
VASU:> “Then, I, along with Ganaka Parishad and the State Government worked to bring Kannada software for official use”, he (Vasu) said.
PAVANAJA: I don’t remember any of such efforts by Sheshadri Vasu. In fact Vasu was very reluctant to implement the GoK standard for font and keyboard. There was a heated argument between Dr Panditharadhya and K T Chandrashekharan, father of Vasu, in this connection. All along the time Shasthry, Narasimha Murthy and Panditharadhya were advocating that Baraha killed Kannada while Nudi saved it! Vasu did implement the keyboard and font standards after repeated appeals by Shrinatha Shasthry and Narasimha Murthy.
VASU: > Baraha 4.0 was the first software that was implemented in Government offices with font styles.
PAVANAJA: I don’t think this statement of Sheshadri Vasu is true. There were many Kannada software being used in state govt much much before KGP, Nudi or Baraha came into existence.
VASU > But the Ganaka Parishad and the State Government have introduced Nudi software as a benchmark system.
PAVANAJA: If Vasu were to introduce the GoK standards much earlier than the release of Kalitha (Nudi), Nudi would not have come into existence.
VASU > Unfortunately for me, the government is insisting the use of Nudi software.
PAVANAJA: Why should be unfortunate to him? He is not selling Baraha.
VASU > While Baraha has fulfilled the terms and conditions put forth by the Government, including stipulations such as keyboard and transliteration, I wonder why they are forcing departments to use only Nudi”, he said. One of Baraha’s many advantages, according to Vasu, is that it allows a person who knows Kannada to type it in English fonts. He felt preference of software (Baraha or Nudi) should be left to end user.
PAVANAJA: Why the choice should be only between Nudi and Baraha, both of them are obsolete in the current and future time where Unicode is the world standard? Actually the choice should be between Windows XP/2003, Mac, Linux, Solaris, Java Desktop, Unix, etc. all are having Unicode compliance.
Meeting with Vasu in June 2004
Vasu was felicitated by Upasana in Bangalore during his visit in June 2004. I met him during that function. I discussed many things in general like Unicode features, facility needed in Baraha to convert RTF and HTML documents into Unicode, etc. Casually I asked him where from he is getting the fonts for his Baraha package. As per his answer, there is an artist in Bangalore who draws the shapes on paper and sends them to him. He (Vasu) scans, digitizes and makes them into fonts. I did not discuss anything about the Akruti font issue.
Conclusion and request
Baraha has copied and used one font from Akruti software. This font is one of the many fonts bundled with current version of Nudi.
I have written everything that I know about the font issues pertaining to Akruti, Baraha and Nudi. My intention is to bring out the truth, however bitter it is. I have no personal animosity with anyone whose name appears in this write-up.
Please read this objectively and subjectively. That is, do a vasthunistha (objective) reading rather than a vyakthinishta (subjective) reading.
Thanks for your patience and time.
U B Pavanaja,
ನಾವು …ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರಾಗುವ ತರಾತುರಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ..ಭಾರತೀಯರೆನ್ನುವುದನ್ನು ಮರೆಯುವುದಲ್ಲ…..
Ganesh <ganeshmbh@yahoo.com> wrote: 08-25-2006 ಪ್ಪಧ್ವಿ ,
ನಾನು …ನಿ೦ಜೊತೆ……even I think so ….
ನಾವು …ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರಾಗುವ ತರಾತುರಿಯಲ್ಲಿ ..ಭಾರತೀಯರೆನ್ನುವುದನ್ನು ಮರೆಯುವುದಲ್ಲ…..
ಮೊದಲು ..ನಮ್ಮ ನಾಯಕತ್ವ ಸರಿ ಇರಬೇಕು …ಆಗ ಭಾರತದ ಮಟ್ಟದಲ್ಲಿ ..ಕನ್ನಡದ ಸ್ಥಾನ ..ಇನ್ನೂ
ಉನ್ನತವಾಗುವುದು ಸಾಧ್ಯ……..
ಈಗೊ೦ದು ಸ್ವಲ್ಪ ದಿನಗಳ ಹಿ೦ದೆ ..ಒ೦ದು ಲೇಖನ ಬ೦ದಿತ್ತು ..ವಿಜಯ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ ದಲ್ಲಿ…..ಅದರ link ಇಲ್ಲಿದೆ…http://vijaykarnatakaepaper.com/ go to archieve and check for the edition August 3 2006–you will see a report on how much our politicians have talked in Parliament…..
What I feel is we need to represent “kannada” in a majestic way …….everywhere …
ಆದ್ರೆ ….ಒ೦ದು basic question ಗೆ ಮಾತ್ರ ….ಉತ್ರ ಸಿಕ್ಕಿಲ್ಲ ನ೦ಗೆ……ಕನ್ನಡದವರಿಗೆ ಕನ್ನಡವೇಕೆ ಕಹಿ……?.. ಅಲ್ಲ ನಮ್ಮ ಜನ …ಒಬ್ರು ತಮ್ಮ ತಾಯಿ ಭಾಷೆ ನ ಪ್ರೀತಿ ಮಾಡಕ್ಕೆ …ಬೇರೆಯವ್ರು ಇಷ್ಟೊ೦ದು
ಕಷ್ಟ ಪಡಬೇಕಾ………?
ಹಾಗಾದ್ರೆ ನಿಜವಾಗ್ಲೂ ನಮಗುರ್ಯೋದು ಯಾವಾಗ ……?
ನಮ್ಗೆ ..ಕನ್ನಡ್ದವ್ರು , ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿ ..ನಮ್ಜೊತೆ ಮಾತಾಡ್ಲಿಲ್ಲ ..ಅ೦ತ ಉರ್ಯೊಲ್ಲ …..ಬೇರೆಯವರು ..ಅವ್ರ ಜನ ಸಿಕ್ದಾಗ ಅವ್ರ ಭಾಷೆ ಅಲ್ಲಿ ಮಾತಾಡ್ತ್ತಾರೆ ನೋಡಿ …..ಆವಾಗ ನಮ್ ಜನಕ್ಕೆ ಯೇನಾಗಿದೆ ಧಾಡಿ …ಅ೦ತ ಉರ್ಯುತ್ತೆ……
Like wise …in my office there is one admin guy ..that guy speaks both malyalam and
kannada …..when mallu’s comes …he will speak in mallu ..when I go, he speaks in english ..what ever I respond in kannada he will respond in English ..what the **** ….
ಹೇಳಿ …ಇದೇ ಅಲ್ವಾ ಉರ್ಯೋದು ……..
ಬೆ೦ಗಳೂರಿನ೦ಥಾ …ಬೆ೦ಗಳೂರಿಗೆ …ಆ ಥರಾ status ಬ೦ದಿದ್ದೇ …IT ಇ೦ದ ……ಒ೦ದು ಕಡೆ …
ನಮ್ಗ್ಗೆ ..modern facility ಬೇಕು …ಇನ್ನೊ೦ದು ಕಡೆ …ಬೆ೦ಗಳೂರು , ಬೆ೦ಗಳೂರಾಗಿರಬೇಕು ಅoದ್ರೆ …
common guys ಅದು ಆಗುತ್ತಾ ….?
If I go to my native – there I dont get to hear anything other than Kannada …ಅದು
ಕನ್ನಡ ಮಯ …..ಕಸ್ತೂರಿ ಮಯ …..
If I come to BengalUrU ….matte ಕಲಬೆರಕೆ ಮಯ …..
So basicaly what I want to convey is –
If we go outside of Begaluru within karnataka – karnataka – is kannada ….(except in some borders…) …..so our aim should not be to make a separate country !!!! only because …people are getting in to BengalUru ……I would like to term that as “ಕ್ಷುಲ್ಲಕ”…..
ನಮ್ಮ ಹಿರಿಯರು “ಖ೦ಡ” ಭಾರತ ವನ್ನು ….ಅಖ೦ಡವಾಗಿಸಿದ್ದು …..ಮತ್ತೆ ಅದು ಖ೦ಡ ವಾಗ್ಲೀ ಅ೦ತನಾ …..
ಬ್ರದರ್ …….so please refrain from these ideas…..
ಹಾಗಾದ್ರೆ …what is the progress …that we have achived -….
…. atleast in my office –
people are much more aware of “mother tongue”…than it was before …..they have
started to speak in kannada if they know other person knows kannada – need not be
kannadiga ….only ….
What ever we are doing..where ever we are going —- we are going in the right direction through this group …
ಜೈ ಕರ್ಣಾಟಕ ಮಾತೆ……….ಜೈ ಕನ್ನಡ ……….
ಗಣೇಶ……
PS : Even after thousand times – some people didnot tell me how to use kannada fonts in emails – finally I found out ………..here it is –
PS : Even after thousand times – asking in the group – I did not get any reply as to how to use kannada fonts in e mails – here is how it is –
1.go to baraha.com
2 download a software called .baraha IME ……and install it
3 restart your system if required
4 . Launch the program Baraha IME ….
5 you will see a small icon on the task bar – on the right side ….
6 you can toggle between English and Kannada by pressing F11 …..
So if you are accessing internet – from your system – and if you can install this software …Please please please ….do so ….and use mAdi and enjoy mAdi …….
if you have any problem – let me know ….
Pruthviraj HP <pruthvihp@gmail.com> wrote:
Sampige,
it is not a problem with few .. but many … 😦
Many can not differentiate between Hindi and Urdu.
There are some words after hearing which people will wonder what do they mean.
People of my country follow movies more than languages.
I second your thought on Sanskrit. If I regret anything in life it is the fact that I did not choose Sanskrit in school (I did not have a choice also).
Coming to some shouts here about “seperate country” … this is no way to start a revolution …
give me a break …
someone said, India is surviving by karnataka;s money. This statement is not so true.
The money IT has generated has not uplifted the lives of our fellow kannadigas, it is too stupid to talk about a country that has so many people relying on agriculture. What contributions our increased export rates of s/w in particular have given to the villager next to bangalore? How did we contribute to reduce the suicide of villagers in so many parts of karnataka? We have not done anything except putting our names in front of some american firms. I do not consider that we have contributed to karnataka itself, thinking of uplifiting india is so much ahead on the road.
How many s/w engineers in/from karnataka afford to buy a site worth 50Lakh+ in bangalore? Do you know who buys the costlier sites of bangalore? Either NRIs (in that case we are not at all talking about the s/w exports bangalore is contributing to) OR mainly diamond/textile merchants from gujrath region.
By getting some tens of thousands of monthly salary we do not have that much of money to support this country.
It is a overstatement.
India is there because of karnataka ???? this statement is true either ways.
Someone told India came to existence 50 years ago and karnataka 2000 years ago.
I know which India are they are talking about. But “bharatha varsha” has been there more than 200 years ago.
before the state of mysore was made (it was not karnataka then .. it was state of mysore), there was not one single kingdom for kannada people. So which kingdom are we talking about then?
The next course of talk would be, I belong to Mysore kindom and you belong to Vijaynagar kingdom … guys we can find thousand reasons to separate ourselves but only one reason to unite ourselves, bharatha.
I am not at all asking you to learn Hindi, nobody needs to learn it. But have some respect for the country.
Otherwise there will be no difference between Jehadis and Us. One goes against the country for his religion and the other for his own language.
On 8/24/06, Sampige Srinivasa <sampiges@hotmail.com> wrote: “DIL DIYA HAI JAAN BHI DENGA EH WATAN TERE LIYE”
And who told the above sentce is hindi. Dil, Watan, etc. are all Urdu.
Please try to differentiate between Urdu and Hindi? The Bollywood hindi is
nothing but Pakistani Urdu .
>From: “Sampige Srinivasa” <sampiges@hotmail.com >
>To: gurugaonkar@yahoo.com, upendra@satline.net, m.niranjan@gmail.com,
> santhoshgr@rediffmail.com, ellakavi@yahoogroups.com,
>santosh_nandur@yahoo.co.in, kahale@yahoogroups.com
>CC: kannada_jagruthi_thanda@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [kahale] Re: Guruprasad – We want South india a Diff country
>Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:41:15 +0000
>
>This is very Funny. Who told every Indian needs to Learn Hindi. Damn it. We
>do not what Hindi.
>
>We are Kannadigas and Hindu but we do not want Hindi. I had learnt Kannada
>as 1st Lanugage, English as 2nd and was forced to learn Hindi as 3rd. I
>still regret taking Hindi as 3rd language. Instead of Hindi I could have
>learn Sanskrit which is the Lanugage of our great Vedas and Puranas.
>
>If Hindi is the only National langauge are we Kannadigas of Karnataka not
>part of the so called nation India. If our lanugage is not our national
>language then why should we call ourselves as Indians.
>
>All the lanugages of our Nation are National Languages, not just Hindi.
>
>So do not tell everyone to learn Hindi. The cunning Central Govt. is
>imposing Hindi on we kannadigas. In this case tamils were better. They
>opposed Hindi in the 6o’s itself. We need to learn from tamils in this
>regard.
>
>Jai Kannada
>saMpige
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: guruprasad gaonkar < gurugaonkar@yahoo.com>
> >To: upendra@satline.net, Appi / Niranjan <m.niranjan@gmail.com>,
>SANTHOSH
> >< santhoshgr@rediffmail.com>, ellakavi@yahoogroups.com, santosh nandur
> >< santosh_nandur@yahoo.co.in>, kahale kahale <kahale@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [kahale] Re: Guruprasad – We want South india a Diff country
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 04:26:40 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> > I do not want to intend offend anyone.
> >
> > I think every Indian needs to know to read, write and speak in our
> >National Language which is Hindi.
> >
> > Upendra – Incase you have not, as Indian you may go ahead and Learn
> >Hindi…..That will help the case.Incase you need help on the same ask a
> >Indian next to you….because the sentence is more to do with the feeling
> >and it can not be expressed fully thru mail…..However you can call me (
> >if you do not mind an International Number)
> >
> > I am a Kannadiga ( do not mistake me due to my surname sounds
> >maratha…..
.and i am not a migrated Kannadiga either…I am a Kannadiga
> >like you), but above all i am an Indian…..
> >
> > Regards
> > Guru
> >
> >Upendra < upendra@satline.net> wrote:
> > Heege andre yen guru? Vasi kannada dalli helu
> >”DIL DIYA HAI JAAN BHI DENGA EH WATAN TERE LIYE”
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > History Repeats…….Thats definetly True…..”Always DIVIDED”……
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Guru
> > >
> > > “DIL DIYA HAI JAAN BHI DENGA EH WATAN TERE LIYE”
> > >
> > >Appi / Niranjan wrote:
> > > “India exists only because of Karnataka’s revenue”
> > >
> > >super maga Uppi! idu spirit andre!! 🙂
> > >
> > >
> > > saar SANTOSH, “India” bandu hechchu-kammi 50 varsha aagirboudu ashTe,
> >aadre KANNADA NADU 2000 varshada hindinindalu ide… sumne eneno
>haeLbeDi.
> > >
> > > If the british didnt rule this land (& if we didnt fight against it
> >unitedly) I wonder if there would’ve been anything called as “india”
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > – Appi.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/22/06, Upendra wrote: Guru, neevu
> >baredirodu yella sari, aadre idanna accept madkonalla
> > >”Don’t forget Karnataka exists only because of India.”
> > >Rather i say
> > >”India exists only because of Karnataka’s revenue”
> > >
> > >-uppi
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Listen O promotors of Separate Country for South Indians,
> > >
> > >The current> president of India APJ abdul Kalam is south Indian, south
> > >Indians like Dev>eGowda, George Fernandez, Radhakrishnan and many
>others
> > >occupied the key po>sitions in ruling our country. There is nothing
>like
> > >south Indian and north> Indian culture, the values we respect are same.
> >We
> >
> > >differ only in the expr>ession of these values. Even the present
>Cricket
> > >team captain Rahul Dravid >also a south Indian. Don’t keepon shouting
> > >against all northis. Thi>s will not serve the purpose of strenthening
> > >Karnataka. Good and bad thing>s are there in both sides. We should
>think
> > >India as a whole and try maximum> to protect our regional cultures.
>Don’t
> > >forget Karnataka exists on>ly because of India.
> > >
> > >And if u starts to argue like south Indian cultur>e is different and we
> > >need separate country then even in Karnataka also we >have to apply
>same
> > >rule. And for each and every 200 km culture will vary, l>anguage will
> >vary
> >
> > >then is it possible to divide Karnataka into 20 independe>nt nations.
> > >Culture of North Karnataka differs from south Karnataka. Kodava>’s are
> > >having different colourful culture. Tulu people may demand f>or
>different
> > >country since there culture also differs from others. Mangalor>ien,
> > >Mysorian, Dharwadian all are having different tongues. Then will u
> >acc>ept
> > >so much of partitions within the state. Please Don’t further
> > >di>sintegrate us. Remove this unpatriotic and idiotic thought of
>forming
> >a
> > >sep>arate country for south Indians.
> > >
> > >And see what happened to Sindhis in >Pakistan, Bangalis in Bangla dEsh
> >and
> > >Sikhs in Pakistan. These countries ar>e the product of partition and
>are
> > >struggling hard to survive.
> > >Even Germ>any which was divided in to two (Because of communism) as
>east
> > >and west get>s united in last decade. North Korea and south Koreans are
> > >rising their han>ds for unification. Isrelis who were living as
>fragments
> > >in hundreds of cou>ntries inspite of all the differences united to form
>a
> > >single country.
> > >>
> > >India is a country existed before civilization flourished in other
> > >conti>nents. This is a time tested and naturally made country. No
> > >artificial part>itions or unifications will survive in the History.
> > >
> > >Dividing India in>to Dravid and Aryan , northis and south and further
> >into
> > >caste, religion an>d language is a strategic plan of the Britishers.
> > >America, England, Arabian>s, Osam bin Laden, Mushraff and other
>external
> > >forces are also trying to wi>den this gap only to stop India from
> >becoming
> > >a super power. knowingly or >unknowingly Please don’t become the pawns
> > >of these dirty forces, wh>ich are dangerous to human race.
> > >
> > >Don’t think KUVEMPU-our Rastrakavi >as a fool to write
> > >”Jaya Bharatajananiya tanujAte JayahE karnataka mAte”.>
> > >
> > >a Kannadig with national spirit
> > >SANTHOSH
> > >
> > >On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 U>pendra wrote :
> > >>appi, naanu kooda “NO” annona antha idde !!!
> > >>sariyagi >helide, i feel to recongised as a Kannadiga rather than
> >Inidan.
> > >>Atleast >south inidia should be made a different country to save our
> > >>culture.
> > >>>Then bloody norhtis require VISA to come to ur south.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >no :))>
> > >> >
> > >> >On 8/19/06, santosh nandur < santosh_nandur@yahoo.co.in > wrote:>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> president’s call for the youth of this nation india
> > >> >> “>be proud to be indians ” YES OR NO?????????????
> > >> >> answer urself!!!!!!!>!1
> > >> >>
> > >> >> by president A.P.J. Kalam.
> > >> >> I was in Hyderabad givin>g this lecture, when a 14
> > >> >> year old girl asked me for my autograph. > I asked her
> > >> >> what her goal in life is. She replied: I want to live>
> > >> >> in a developed India. For her, you and I will have to
> > >> >> build> this developed India. You must proclaim. India
> > >> >> is not an under-dev>eloped nation; it is a highly
> > >> >> developed nation.
> > >> >> Do you have >10 minutes?
> > >> >> Allow me to come back with a vengeance
> > >> >> Got 10 min>utes for your country? If yes, then read;
> > >> >> otherwise, choice is your>s.
> > >> >> YOU say that our government is inefficient.
> > >> >> YOU say that o>ur laws are too old.
> > >> >> YOU say that the municipality does not pick up >the
> > >> >> garbage.
> > >> >> YOU say that the phones don’t work; the railways> are a
> > >> >> joke, The airline is the worst in the world, mails
> > >> >> n>ever reach their destination.
> > >> >> YOU say that our country has been fed> to the dogs and
> > >> >> is the absolute pits.
> > >> >> YOU say, say and say.> What do YOU do about it? Take a
> > >> >> person on his way to Singapore. Gi>ve him a
> > >> >> name…YOURS. Give him a face…YOURS.
> > >> >> YOU walk out> of the airport and you are at your
> > >> >> International best. – In Singa>pore you don’t throw
> > >> >> cigarette butts on the roads or eat in the sto>res.
> > >> >> YOU are as proud of their Underground Links as they
> > >> >> are.>
> > >> >> You pay $5(approx. Rs.60) to drive through Orchard
> > >> >> Road(equi>valent of Mahim Causeway or Pedder Road)
> > >> >> between 5 PM and 8 PM.
> > >>> >> YOU comeback to the parking lot to punch your parking
> > >> >> ticket i>f you have over-stayed, identity. In
> > >> >> Singapore you don’t say anythi>ng, DO YOU?
> > >> >> YOU wouldn’t dare to eat in public during Ramadan,in
> > >>> >> Dubai.
> > >> >> YOU would not dare to go out without your head covered
> > >>> >> in Jeddah.
> > >> >> YOU would not dare to buy an employee of the
> > >> >>> telephone exchange in London at 10 pounds( Rs.650) a
> > >> >> month to, “se>e to it that my STD and ISD calls are
> > >> >> billed to someone else.”
> > >> >>> YOU would not dare to speed beyond 55 mph (88 km/h)
> > >> >> in Washingto>n and then tell the traffic cop, “Jaanta
> > >> >> hai main kaun hoon (Do yo>u know who I am?). I am so
> > >> >> and so’s son.
> > >> >> YOU wouldn’t chuck a>n empty coconut shell anywhere
> > >> >> other than the garbage pail on the b>eaches in
> > >> >> Australia and New Zealand. Why don’t YOU spit Paan on
> > >>> >> the streets of Tokyo? Why don’t YOU use examination
> > >> >> jockeys or >buy fake certificates in Boston????? We
> > >> >> are still talking of the s>ame YOU.
> > >> >> YOU can respect and conform to a foreign system in
> > >> >> o>ther countries but cannot in your own. You throw
> > >> >> papers and cigare>ttes on the road the moment you
> > >> >> touch the Indian ground. If you ca>n be an involved
> > >> >> and appreciative citizen in an alien country, wh>y
> > >> >> cannot you be the same here in India?
> > >> >> Once in an interview,> the famous Ex-municipal
> > >> >> Commissioner of Bombay, Mr.Tinaikar, had >a point to
> > >> >> make. “Rich people’s dogs are walked on the streets
> > >> >>> to leave their affluent droppings all over the place,”
> > >> >> he said. >”And then the same people turn around to
> > >> >> criticize and blame the au>thorities for inefficiency
> > >> >> and dirty pavements. What do they expect> the officers
> > >> >> to do? Go down with a broom every time their dog
> > >> >>> feels the pressure in his bowels?
> > >> >> In America every dog owner has >to clean up after his
> > >> >> pet has done the job. Same in Japan. Will th>e Indian
> > >> >> citizen do that here?” He’s right. We go to the polls
> > >> >>> to choose a government and after that forfeit all
> > >> >> responsibility>. We sit back wanting to be pampered and
> > >> >> expect the government to do> everything for us whilst
> > >> >> our contribution is totally negative. We> expect the
> > >> >> government to clean up but we are not going to stop
> > >>> >> chucking garbage all over the place nor are we going
> > >> >> to stop to> pickup a stray piece of paper and throw it
> > >> >> in the bin. We expect th>e railways to provide clean
> > >> >> bathrooms but we are not going to learn> the proper
> > >> >> use of bathrooms
> > >> >> We want Indian Airlines and Air >India to provide the
> > >> >> best of food and toiletries but we are not goi>ng to
> > >> >> stop pilfering at the least opportunity. This applies
> > >> >> >even to the staff that is known not to pass on the
> > >> >> service to the pu>blic. When it comes to burning social
> > >> >> issues like those related to w>omen, dowry,girl child
> > >> >> and others, we make loud drawing room protes>tations
> > >> >> and continue to do the reverse at home. Our excuse?
> > >> >> >”It’s the whole system which has to change, how will
> > >> >> it matter if I> alone forego my son’s rights to a
> > >> >> dowry.
> > >> >> ” So who’s going to> change the system? What does a
> > >> >> system consist of? Very convenient>ly for us it
> > >> >> consists of our neighbours, other households, other
> > >>> >> cities, other communities and The government. But
> > >> >> definitely n>ot me and YOU.When it comes to us actually
> > >> >> making a positive contr>ibution to the system we lock
> > >> >> ourselves along with our families int>o a safe cocoon
> > >> >> and look into the distance at countries far away a>nd
> > >> >> wait for a Mr. Clean to come along & work miracles
> > >> >> for u>s with a majestic sweep of his hand or we leave
> > >> >> the country and run> away.
> > >> >> Like lazy cowards hounded by our fears we run to
> > >> >> Ameri>ca to bask in their glory and praise their
> > >> >> system. – When New York >becomes insecure we run to
> > >> >> England.
> > >> >> When England experiences >unemployment, we take the
> > >> >> next flight out to the Gulf. – When the >Gulf is war
> > >> >> struck, we demand to be rescued and brought home by
> > >>> >> the Indian government. Everybody is out to abuse and
> > >> >> rape the c>ountry. Nobody thinks of feeding the system.
> > >> >> Our conscience is mortg>aged to money.
> > >> >> Dear Indians, the article is highly thought
> > >> >> i>nductive, calls for a great deal of introspection
> > >> >> and pricks one’s >conscience too?..
> > >> >> I am echoing J.F. Kennedy’s words to his fellow
> > >>> >> American to relate to Indians?. “ASK WHAT WE CAN DO
> > >> >> FOR INDIA> AND DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE TO MAKE INDIA
> > >> >> WHAT AMERICA AND OTHER W>ESTERN COUNTRIES ARE TODAY”
> > >> >> Let’s do what India needs from us.
> > >>> >> Forward this mail to each Indian for a change instead
> > >> >> of sendin>g Jokes or junk mails.
> > >> >> Thank You, Dr. Abdul Kalaam
> > >> >>
Baraha has not been made a FREE software(Getting FREE without source code is not FREE at all)
Sada Kannada <sadakannada@yahoo.com> wrote August 2nd2006,
Hello
I guess what you are saying is the copyrighted material is stolen in someway (It becomes known through Mr. Pavanaja’s letter that he simply downloaded the read-only fonts and used them for his further work) by Mr. Vasu and using that he could squeeze some commercial into a charity which he and others run it in their name.
But then, when Vasu admitted that he had used your code or copyrighted material, why did not you take any action against him (It so seems that he may no longer be using the same fonts — > My acknowldgements to Akruti software for providing the glyphs which > were used in the intial releases of Baraha. I apologise for this delayed > acknowledgement.)?
You just wanted to frame him as a stealing guy and let the matter off at that?
But the problem lies in that Nudi people took those same fonts and sold it to government for money. This is really filthy. If that is so, has there been attempts to prove that the Nudi fonts are really from Akruti. OK, all this said, what would we be more interested in is, how should some volunteer be involved in Kannada software development?
When some person wants to chip in, where should he/she start? Should he/she start at the fight for fonts?
May be you have a point, but you have not told it to us correctly, at least I did not understand it right.
Now the problem is, Baraha has not been made a FREE software (Getting FREE without source code is not FREE at all), so what in the name of contributing that Mr. Vasu is deriving money? In your words it is possible to put that he has stolen the fonts and for that he is deriving money.
This will ultimately results to the understanding that some infighting among Kannadigas, some with issues and some without issues, that has stalled the Kannada software development.
A few questions:
1) It is irreversible that whatever money Mr. Vasu has derived in the name of providing a commercially NULL software called Baraha, though he has stolen the FONTS from Akruti software. Should we urge Mr. Vasu to make Baraha a open source FREE software so that things will remain transparent from now on? But that is his personal fantasy to write a piece of software and give it for FREE (commercially only), even if his intentions were to kill the business you or someone else had developed by investing in research of fonts. But the Nudi should be made FREE, even if it becomes impossible to prove that they used the Baraha fonts and showed it to Government to derive further funding, (opening the source for all to study and improve) because it involves the government funding, the money which the government got through our taxes.
2) For some volunteers like me, what interests is, learning a KERNEL, which the GNU/LInux makes possible, not this kind of skirmishes. So, this may discourage many a persons. True that some guy and more convolved with him/them have taken away the credit for their false (as it becomes evident from the mail that Mr. Pavanaja has written that you have forwarded) accomplishments. Can you tell us what is the state of affairs with Akruti fonts? Are they in business or has that been killed by the illicit business practice that Mr. Vasu and others have pushed in by stealing the fonts? If latter is the case, you can proceed for legally trying them, which we may not be much interested in. If not you will be simply wasting your time so that neither they will make the source code FREE and you will end up blaming them for their misdeeds.
This is not a good thing for Kannada, I guess.
Anyway, how long can we keep the interest to work for Kannada software alive?
Sada Shiva
dhanyavaadagaLoMdige
Sadashiva
kannaDa taMtraaMshada bagge tamage aasaktiyiddalli, namma upayuktakaravaada taaNakke baMdu tamma vichaarasaraNiyannu maMdisi, nammoMdige kannaDa taMtraaMsha abhivRuddhiyalli paalgoLLireMdu kELikoLLUttEve. nimage aasaktiyideyE? namma taaNa <Niramkushamatigalu@yahoogroups.com>
_____________
Hello Kannadigas,
There is a correction in what I wrote before.
This correction was pointed out by this email from Dr. U. B. Pavanaja. Please read for your self.
—–
Forwarded Message:
Subj: Re: Fwd: Story of Birth for an Adult Man – How it happens and HOW it has HAPPENEND
Date: 7/7/2004 8:23:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: pavanaja@vishvakannada.com
To: NovaMed@aol.com
CC: anand@cyberscapeindia.comm, bhchandrashekara@hotmail.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
namaskaara,
I think there is a factual error in your mail.
You wrote: VASU the MAN in USA buys the AKRUTI FONTS of Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd. after talking Dr. PAVANAJA and now VASU thinks that he owns it and the VASU puts this AKRUTI FONTS into MOTHER’s womb and conceives it. Mother gave birth to NEW FONTS.
AFAIK, Vasu did not buy fonts from Anand (Akruti fonts). He just used the fonts available for free download at my web-site (www.vishvakannada.com). The fonts were given only for reading the web-site and not for any other purpose.
sigONa,
Pavanaja
—————————————-
Dr. U.B. Pavanaja
CEO, Vishva Kannada Softech
Think Globally, Act locally
_____________________________
THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE STORY of BIRTH WHAT I WROTE to all of you.
STILL VASU’s admission of using AKRUTI FONTS and Apolising to Mr. S. K. Anand is in writing. THIS INVOLVES MORAL ISSUES. It is not a made up by any one as some one is saying. It is not CUT and PASTE works as some one is posting in a forum. These emails are REAL PROOF.
PLEASE DO NOT SPREAD BAD THINGS UNLESS YOU KNOW THE FACTS.
Mr. Anand does not have to proove anything to kannadigas. All Kannadigas have to read are the emails.
Here is what Mr. Anand has written in short format:
Re: Ends do not justify crooked means !
In a message dated 7/7/2004 4:35:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, anand@cyberscapeindia.com writes:
> My acknowldgements to Akruti software for providing the glyphs which
> were used in the intial releases of Baraha. I apologise for this delayed
> acknowledgement.
> Regards
>
> Vasu
__________________________________
I think from the above excerpt of Mr. Vasu’s mail to me, it should be clear (to anyone who can understand plain simple English), whether it is an acknowledgement or an apology for a delayed acknowledgement.
Do you still have doubts? Please be objective and go by facts and do not be swayed by emotion.
A theft is a theft is a theft, no matter how noble the intended purpose maybe. Ends do not justify crooked means !
With best regards.
Anand S.K.
Managing Director
Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd.
Banaglore.
___________________________
BECAUSE BARAHA is free to kannadigas on the net that does not mean you need to support blindly.
VASU is offering it free BECAUSE he knows he has not put in time to develop those fonts when he released BARAHA 1.0.
VASU might do song and dance now. It is not going to work.
For everything there should be a begining.
VASU did not become a 25 year old man just like that.
VASU has to be baby first THEN child THEN HIGH SCHOOL BOY THEN COLLEGE BOY THEN a MAN. VASU did not become a MAN outright on first attempt. I think VASU has to check with his parents all about this.
JUST LIKE THAT there is a process for all the things. WHICH includes FONTS, SOFTWARE and other things. I hope you are getting the point now.
AKRUTI Fonts was BABY of Mr. S. K. ANAND of Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd. and it was growing. Thye were feeding water to it. They were selling that AKRUTI FONTS to General Public. Thye were not offering it free to any one. I hope you are getting the point.
There comes Dr. U. B. Pavanaja.s first KANNADA Internet Portal http://www.vishvakannada.com
developed using AKRUTI FONTS of Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd. to all kannadigas. Then a MAN called VASU who was in USA sees and reads this FIRST KANNADA PORTAL and writes a letter to Dr. U. B. Pavanaja asking all sorts of questions to Dr. Pavanaja about the KANNADA PORTAL and FONTS used for it. ALL THIS STORY IS REAL. IT IS RECORDED IN PAPERS. AT THAT TIME THERE WAS NO BARAHA. It was still in the MOTHER’s womb. It is not yet conceived by any one.
VASU the MAN in USA buys the AKRUTI FONTS of Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd. after talking Dr. PAVANAJA and now VASU thinks that he owns it and the VASU puts this AKRUTI FONTS into MOTHER’s womb and conceives it. Mother gave birth to NEW FONTS.
I hope you understand ENGLISH to follow all these things BECAUSE all of this is in ENGLISH not in KANNADA yet.
VASU names this BABY of AKRUTI FONTS of Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd. has BARAHA 1.0 and welcomes to the world of Kannadigas as FREE CANDIES as if VASU the MAN oqned these FONTS. He did not realise that FATHER of BARAHA was someone else at that time.
He was so excited VASU the MAN started enjoying himself BUT forgot how he CONCEIVED the BABY FONTS BARAHA 1.0 VASU does not have to check with BARAHA parents. He is the parent. He conceived this BARAHA by using AKRUTI FONTS which is lika MOTHER.
As we all say; ” DO’t FOOL MOTHER NATURE”. This is a natural act that has happened. VASU can’t FOOL Kannadigas anymore. He has given it in writing to MOTHER AKRUTI FONTS of Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd.
VASU the MAN can go on writing all the articles he wants, He can release thousands of COPYRIGHT papers and artilces, He can write I can do that and these, He has done so many things after the BABY BARAHA’s birth of conceived out of AKRUTI Fonts.
VASU started getting lots of users from Kannadigas in USA ( where BARAHA became famous first) and then spread to other Kanandigas by word of mouth. KANNADIGAS will take everything they get as long it is FREE.
That is what VASU did and Kannadigas started using BARAHA without any knowledge that was a STOLEN / THEFT/PIRATED/COPIED from AKRUTI FONTS.
The word will spread just like VASU did in the begining, THAT he has done like this when he released BARAHA 1.0.
ALL KANNADIGAS has to know now that, NUDI / KALITHA FONTS developed by KGP is also the same story.
KGP copied from BARAHA/AKRUTI. THESE FONTS have TWO MOTHERS.
Mr. Chandrashekara, do you know how much fight Dr. Panditharadhya from MYSORE did on this with VASU’s FATHER? Please ask him. He will explain. Please write to him. His email are: pandita@eth.net, panditaradhya@sancharnet.in,
The way you have written is that you do not care about kannadigas in Karnataka State.
You are not worried about “ADALITHADALLI KANNADA”. IS THIS HAPPENNING ?
Have you questioned VASU on the following things:
1. Standardisation of KANNADA.
2. Data Portability to various formats and OS of KANNADA.
ALSO VASU writes ( KANNADIGAS need to question VASU on this):
“I have focused more on standardization issues and portability of data to various formats and Operating Systems, which was ignored (deliberately for business interests?) by other software vendors.”
Do not blindly support things without knowing the facts. It is going DESTROY the GROWTH of KANNADA SOFTWARE. WE ALLREADY FACING PROBLEMS WITH KGP.
Just because VASU is giving FREE BARAHA SOFTWARE which does not belong to him to KANNADIGAS in USA, UK, AUSTRALIA, SINGAPORE, MALAYSIA, AFRICA, RUSSIA, SOUTH AMERICA and other countries, WILL NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEMS of KANNADIGAS in KARNATAKA STATE and GoK.
BARAHA and NUDI are the two things that came to PUBLIC that has made KANNADA SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT to a STAND STILL. Nothing is happenning in GoK or any where else.
This email from VASU of BARAHA shows the ADMISSION and ACKNOWLEDGEMENT and GUILT.
” I honestly admit that I have used the glyphs from one of the Akruti fonts in Baraha 1.0, and I was not very serious to mention about it.”
I apologise for this delayed acknowledgement.
VASU.
AKRUTI fonts developed by Mr. S. K. Anand.
MR. S. K Anand is also making a CHARGE on KGP and it’s Executives for using his AKRUTI FONTS to develop KALITHA/NUDI Kannada Software and selling it GoK.
__________________________________________
Mr. S. K. Anand’s email to V.M.Kumaraswamy and
Mr. Sheshadri Vasu’s email to Mr. S. K. Anand
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Forwarded Message:
Subj: Fw: From Sheshadrivasu Chandrasekharan
Date: 6/28/2004 11:01:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: anand@cyberscapeindia.com
To: novamed@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)
Shri Kumarswamy,
Namaskaara,
I think largely due to your relentless efforts to ferret out the truth behind the sad state of affairs in the area of Kannada software and the domination of false icons of the so called free software like KGP Nudi and Sheshadrivasu’s Baraha, a lot of bitter truth and hidden information is coming out from various quarters, which is exposing the nasty skullduggery by which these false icons have sucked on the blood of the real workers in the Kannada software arena who have never claimed that they and they alone have done a great service to Kannada, but have been contributing silently in the background.
I am forwarding here, an admission by one such icon, the Guru of free Kannada software, who, perhaps due to the fear of getting exposed by these revelations, very belatedly realised the need for acknowledging the unabashed piracy. More than six years after his misdeed, he meekly apologises for having pirated our “Akruti” fonts. This is a charge we have also made on KGP. How many more years, do we have to wait for them to come clean?
Anyway, I hope you keep churning the murky waters of the Kannada software world for more such nuggets. I sincerely hope at the end of this great “Samudra Manthan”, finally some true gems emerge and adorn our beloved “Kannada Maate” who must be hanging her head in eternal shame at the present state of affairs. All the behind the scene workers like us should be thankful for your fearless crusade against all the wrong doers.
Hoping for a positive outcome for the sake of Kannada,
Anand S.K.
Managing Director
Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd.
Mr. Sheshadri Vasu’s email to Mr. S. K. Anand
—– Original Message —–
From: Sheshadrivasu Chandrasekharan <baraha@hotmail.com>
To: <anand@cyberscapeindia.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:18 PM
Subject: From Sheshadrivasu Chandrasekharan
> Dear Mr. S.K. Anand,
>
> I recently saw a remark from you in one of the postings in an Internet
> newsgroup which goes as follows…
>
> “We who have been developing such fonts (AKRUTI) well over two decades would
> not like a repeat of the experience, we had when our fonts were pirated off
> the Web and used without acknowledgement, first by an individual who went on
> to release a free software…”
>
> I thought you may be referring to Baraha software in the above remark, and
> hence is this email.
>
> When I started developing a Kannada software, I had no knowledge of fonts at
> all. I experimented a lot with various Kannada fonts available in the
> Internet, including Akruti. This research helped me to understand the
> technology behind the Kannada fonts and I learnt a lot from these software.
> Initially, I wanted Baraha compatible with other Kannada fonts. But due to
> various limitations of such fonts, I had to come up with my own encoding.
I honestly admit that I have used the glyphs from one of the Akruti fonts in Baraha 1.0, and I was not very serious to mention about it.
When I released Baraha 1.0, I didn’t know it will become popular and used by many people. It was only an experiment which I wanted to share with my family and friends.
> But later, when Baraha became popular, for copyright reasons, I had to add
> my own fonts for Kannada and other languages. I have created many new font
> styles, which don’t exist in any other Kannada software. My intention was to
> provide the facility for basic documentation needs of Kannada. It was not my
> intention to copy or re-create various Kannada font styles that are
> available in other packages. Instead I have focussed more on portability of
> Kannada text from Baraha to other software such as Akruti, ShreeLipi, e.t.c.
>
> Through this mail I would like to express my grattitude to various other
> Kannada software for helping me to acquire the knowledge.
My acknowldgements to Akruti software for providing the glyphs which were used in the intial releases of Baraha.
I apologise for this delayed acknowledgement.
>
> Regards
> Vasu
> ***********************************************************
> Free Kannada/Devanagari software – http://www.baraha.com
> ***********************************************************
Can Microsoft give us their Windows kernel to study and make modifications? It is unimaginable.
Sada Kannada <sadakannada@yahoo.com> 08-15-2006
Nudi and Baraha are not relevant as per Pavanaja
geLeyarE
Here the questions is how strongly the KSD issue is associated with Kannadigas themselves.
We want self reliance with KSD. We should not hand over the KSD issues to any one big corporation.
We should always be able to look into what the happendings are with KSD. So, the language software should always be FREE (in the sense of freedom).
Even when the Africans have realised this, we falter in this front.
So, there is certainly a vested interest in this. The crucial thing is to get Nudi as FREE software. Soon it happens happens, the better.
Can Microsoft give us their Windows kernel to study and make modifications? It is unimaginable.
If Windows goes out of market, they will surely stop the support of their product and with no code of Windows available, what should we do?
So, it is better to have the control with us, so we can have a better future for our language with any kind of situation.
Let us all work towards this.
Sada Shiva
Manmaya Kumar <manmaya@gmail.com> wrote:
Baraha supports Unicode keyboard. But if you read the article by Pavanaja, it says that all the facilities need to use Kannada Unicode are built into Winodws XP and Linux. Hence Baraha and Nudi are no more relevant. What else for Nudi and Baraha are needed?
iti,
manmaya
On 8/11/06, sachinisgod <sachinisgod@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
i dont see how baraha is not relevant. baraha supports unicode. not
sure about nudi. nudi may not support unicode. so he says it is
losing its relevance. aadare baraha supports unicode.
— In ellaKAVI@yahoogroups.com, “Manmaya Kumar” <manmaya@…> wrote:
namaskaara,
I just happenned to read an article by Dr Pavanaja at http://vishvakannada.com/node/271. In that article he is claiming
that Nudi and Baraha are no more relevant now. What is your comment on that
statement?
Why don’t the learned experts on Kannada and computers comment below
that article?
iti nimmava,
manmaya
Nudi and Baraha are not relevant as per Pavanaja
Sada Kannada <sadakannada@yahoo.com> wrote:
Please note, I am not an expert. I am also learning the localization of software.
But we can surely say that the purpose the Nudi and Baraha were developed (to see Kannada on Computer for DTP work at the most) are no more relevant.
So, we need to have some advanced facilities for Kannada on the computers, like voice recognition, etc.
Since the platform on which the two softwares work (i.e., Windows) has itself offers facilities for Kannada, these softwares are almost redundant.
The KSD at KGP has failed (Forget about Baraha, that is the software of one Kannadiga, not of any government funded organization). They have not progressed beyond the DTP facilities for Kannada on computers.
We can try to do something useful if there are no hindrances (there may be no help from KGP, I guess).
People who are in Bangalore can get the people at KGP for a talk, we can atleast know their intention about open sourcing Nudi. I guess they have not spoken up.
“Manmaya Kumar” <manmaya@…> wrote:
Baraha supports Unicode keyboard. But if you read the article by Pavanaja, it says that all the facilities need to use Kannada Unicode are built into Winodws XP and Linux. Hence Baraha and Nudi are no more relevant.
What else for Nudi and Baraha are needed?
iti,
manmaya
On 8/11/06, sachinisgod <sachinisgod@…> wrote:
i dont see how baraha is not relevant. baraha supports unicode. not sure about nudi. nudi may not support unicode. so he says it is losing its relevance. aadare baraha supports unicode.
“Manmaya Kumar” <manmaya@> wrote:
namaskaara,
I just happenned to read an article by Dr Pavanaja at http://vishvakannada.com/node/271.
In that article he is claiming that Nudi and Baraha are no more relevant now. What is your comment on that statement?
Why don’t the learned experts on Kannada and computers comment below that article?
iti nimmava,
manmaya
oMdu manavi to kagapa by Sada Shiva
maanyarE
Pardon me for writing this mail in English.
I am one of the members of an online Kannada discussion group which is promoting FREE software (in the sense of freedom that offers the source code to anyone who wishes to take it – It is bit surprising that you have made some softwares for free download which are only sharewares NOT FREE SOFTWARE) for Kannada called E-Kavi.
I could go through your website (kagapa.org) and I am happy to see the contents and plans you have for Kannada on computers.
If I am not wrong, any new thing that comes should empower the people. In this direction, availability of source code of the Kannada language implementation on computers should be made available to Kannada people so that each creative person can study the code, and possibly improve it.
Since this organization(KAGAPA) is deriving our Government fund for its activities (this I got to know through our discussion at E-Kavi), is it not a good idea to allow more Kannadigas in this great work of Kannada software development?
Do you have any plans to release the source code of Nudi software? If not, what is the problem? Since lots of us work on GNU/Linux, the Nudi in its current state is not useful to us.
Also, there are a very few people working on it now, it would accelerate the process if more people are allowed to work on this.
Please give us reasons why Nudi has NOT been open sourced yet. Please reply me and allow more Kannadigas to participate in this kind of Kannada works.
Sada Shiva <sadakannada@yahoo.com>
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