Kannada, Kannadiga, Kannadigaru, Karnataka,

Kannadigarella ondaagi Kannadavannu ulisona, kalisona and belesona

G.Prasad-Akruthi Fonts were not availble for FREE for any KANNADIGA to download and use.

G.Prasad-Akruthi Fonts were not availble for FREE for any KANNADIGA to download and use.

WHAT G . PRASAD WROTE SUPPORTING SHESHADRI VASU of BARAHA

G. Prasad
gprsd786@yahoo.co.in | 71.251.42.181

Mr. sheshadri vasu used a freely available font and used it as a basis to develop his software called baraha. whats wrong with it? He has given his software free to everybody. he is not selling it. Unlike Mr. Sheshadri vasu, Mr. Pavanaja used some free source code called Logo, added some kannada interface to it, sold it as a “kannada logo software” to karnataka govt for lakhs of rupees!

For those people who talk about piracy, please tell me how many of you are not downloading freely available music from internet. how many of us are not watching free kannada songs from youtube? Isn’t that piracy? If baraha wasn’t popular, nobody would have complained. When it became poplular people who are jealous are complaining about it now.

By the way, Mr. Kumaraswamy, are you not ashamed of poking through the emails that were meant for others. Do you have respect to the privacy of people?

From Me, Kannada and IT, 2008/06/13 at 5:52 PM
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G. PRASAD NEEDS to read this.

G. Prasad needs to learn to write under REAL NAME – REAL EMAIL ID – PROVIDE CONTACT NUMBER.

The way G Prasad has posted in www.ellakavi.wordpress.com is like what VASU has done. Like a COWARD !!

AKRUTHI fonts was not available FREE for any one. It was only for reading purpose of www.vishwakannada.com of Dr. U. B. Pavanaja.
Here it self G Prasad is telling a LIE to people. VASU stole the IPR in 1997 but VASU wrote an email to AKRUTHI owner in 2004.

G.Prasad-Akruthi Fonts were not avialble for FREE for any KANNADIGA to download and use.
VASU has STOLEN the IPR of AKRUTHI Fonts.
THIS amounts real THIEF work by Sheshadri Vasu

G. PRASAD needs to provide proof, if he has any on Dr. U. B. Pavanaja getting funds from Govt. of Karnataka.

Otherwise do not make any allegations if you do not have anything in writing.

G. Prasad needs to get himself educated on what is PIRACY, STEALING and other things.
VASU says, he did not have any knowledge of KANNADA FONTS, before STEALING IPR of AKRUTHI Fonts.

I hope G. Prasad knows how to read ENGLISH. Because Sheshadri Vasu’s email that VASU wrote on July 2004 is in ENGLISH.
If G Prasad can read that, then he will know what Vasu has written and VASU tells how much intelligent he was on Software Issues.

Mr. Sheshadri Vasu’s email to Mr. S. K. Anand

—– Original Message —–
From: Sheshadrivasu Chandrasekharan <baraha@hotmail.com>
To: <anand@cyberscapeindia.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:18 PM
Subject: From Sheshadrivasu Chandrasekharan

> Dear Mr. S.K. Anand,
>
> I recently saw a remark from you in one of the postings in an Internet
> newsgroup which goes as follows…
>
> “We who have been developing such fonts (AKRUTI) well over two decades would
> not like a repeat of the experience, we had when our fonts were pirated off
> the Web and used without acknowledgement, first by an individual who went on
> to release a free software…”
>
> I thought you may be referring to Baraha software in the above remark, and
> hence is this email.
>
> When I started developing a Kannada software, I had no knowledge of fonts at
> all.
I experimented a lot with various Kannada fonts available in the
> Internet, including Akruti. This research helped me to understand the
> technology behind the Kannada fonts and I learnt a lot from these software.

> Initially, I wanted Baraha compatible with other Kannada fonts. But due to
> various limitations of such fonts, I had to come up with my own encoding.

I honestly admit that I have used the glyphs from one of the Akruti fonts in Baraha 1.0, and I was not very serious to mention about it.


When I released Baraha 1.0, I didn’t know it will become popular and used by many people. It was only an experiment which I wanted to share with my family and friends.

> But later, when Baraha became popular, for copyright reasons, I had to add
> my own fonts for Kannada and other languages. I have created many new font
> styles, which don’t exist in any other Kannada software. My intention was to
> provide the facility for basic documentation needs of Kannada. It was not my
> intention to copy or re-create various Kannada font styles that are
> available in other packages. Instead I have focussed more on portability of
> Kannada text from Baraha to other software such as Akruti, ShreeLipi, e.t.c.
>
> Through this mail I would like to express my grattitude to various other
> Kannada software for helping me to acquire the knowledge.

My acknowldgements to Akruti software for providing the glyphs which were used in the intial releases of Baraha.

I apologise for this delayed acknowledgement.

>
> Regards
> Vasu
> ***********************************************************
> Free Kannada/Devanagari software – http://www.baraha.com
> ***********************************************************

The above email from VASU of BARAHA shows the ADMISSION and ACKNOWLEDGEMENT and GUILT.

” I honestly admit that I have used the glyphs from one of the Akruti fonts in Baraha 1.0, and I was not very serious to mention about it.” Sheshadri Vasu.

AKRUTI fonts developed by Mr. S. K. Anand.

MR. S. K Anand is also making a CHARGE on KGP and it’s Executives for using his AKRUTI FONTS to develop KALITHA/NUDI Kannada Software and selling it GoK.
_________
Mr. S. K. Anand’s email to V.M.Kumaraswamy
—————–
Forwarded Message:
Subj: Fw: From Sheshadrivasu Chandrasekharan
Date: 6/28/2004 11:01:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From: anand@cyberscapeindia.com
To: novamed@aol.com
Sent from the Internet (Details)

Shri Kumarswamy,

Namaskaara,

I think largely due to your relentless efforts to ferret out the truth behind the sad state of affairs in the area of Kannada software and the domination of false icons of the so called free software like KGP Nudi and Sheshadrivasu’s Baraha, a lot of bitter truth and hidden information is coming out from various quarters, which is exposing the nasty skullduggery by which these false icons have sucked on the blood of the real workers in the Kannada software arena who have never claimed that they and they alone have done a great service to Kannada, but have been contributing silently in the background.

I am forwarding here, an admission by one such icon, the Guru of free Kannada software, who, perhaps due to the fear of getting exposed by these revelations, very belatedly realised the need for acknowledging the unabashed piracy. More than six years after his misdeed, he meekly apologises for having pirated our “Akruti” fonts. This is a charge we have also made on KGP. How many more years, do we have to wait for them to come clean?

Anyway, I hope you keep churning the murky waters of the Kannada software world for more such nuggets. I sincerely hope at the end of this great “Samudra Manthan”, finally some true gems emerge and adorn our beloved “Kannada Maate” who must be hanging her head in eternal shame at the present state of affairs. All the behind the scene workers like us should be thankful for your fearless crusade against all the wrong doers.

Hoping for a positive outcome for the sake of Kannada,

Anand S.K.
Managing Director
Cyberscape Multimedia Ltd.

_______________________________

ANALYSIS:

WITHOUT BARAHA 1.0 – that is from STEALING

IPR and GLYPHS of AKRUTHI Fonts – VASU could not have done all further BARAHA releases.

Dr.U.B.Pavanaja writes- BARAHA VASU is giving WRONG INFORMATION to press and to kannadigas. Also VASU is quoting a WRONG COURT CASE to prove what has done by stealing IPR from AKRUTHI is correct.

http://ellakavi.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/drubpavanaja-writes-baraha-vasu-is-giving-wrong-information-to-press-and-to-kannadigas-also-vasu-is-quoting-a-wrong-court-case-to-prove-what-has-done-by-stealing-ipr-from-akruthi-is-correct/

BARAHA Vasu’s interview to Deccan Herald in 2004

and Dr. U. B. Pavanaja’s comments

Vasu’s interview to Deccan Herald and comments by Dr. U. B. Pavanaja

Vasu gave an interview to Deccan Herald during his visit to Bangalore in June 2004. Here are some excerpts and my comments on them:-

> “Then, I, along with Ganaka Parishad and the State Government worked to bring Kannada software for official use”, he (Vasu) said.


I don’t remember any of such efforts by Sheshadri Vasu. In fact Vasu was very reluctant to implement the GoK standard for font and keyboard. There was a heated argument between Dr Panditharadhya and K T Chandrashekharan, father of Vasu, in this connection. All along the time Shasthry, Narasimha Murthy and Panditharadhya were advocating that Baraha killed Kannada while Nudi saved it!   Vasu did implement the keyboard and font standards after repeated appeals by Shrinatha Shasthry and Narasimha Murthy.

> Baraha 4.0 was the first software that was implemented in Government offices with font styles.


I don’t think this statement of Sheshadri Vasu is true. There were many Kannada software being used in state govt much much before KGP, Nudi or Baraha came into existence .


> But the Ganaka Parishad and the State Government have introduced Nudi software as a benchmark system.


If Vasu were to introduce the GoK standards much earlier than the release of Kalitha (Nudi), Nudi would not have come into existence.


VASU said: > Unfortunately for me, the government is insisting the use of Nudi software.


Why should be unfortunate to him? He is not selling Baraha.


> While Baraha has fulfilled the terms and conditions put forth by the Government, including stipulations such as keyboard and transliteration, I wonder why they are forcing departments to use only Nudi”, he said. One of Baraha’s many advantages, according to Vasu, is that it allows a person who knows Kannada to type it in English fonts. He felt preference of software (Baraha or Nudi) should be left to end user.


Why the choice should be only between Nudi and Baraha , both of them are obsolete in the current and future time where Unicode is the world standard?

Actually the choice should be between Windows XP/2003, Mac, Linux, Solaris, Java Desktop, Unix, etc. all are having Unicode compliance.


Meeting with Vasu in June 2004

Vasu was felicitated by Upasana in Bangalore during his visit in June 2004. I met him during that function. I discussed many things in general like Unicode features, facility needed in Baraha to convert RTF and HTML documents into Unicode, etc. Casually I asked him where from he is getting the fonts for his Baraha package. As per his answer, there is an artist in Bangalore who draws the shapes on paper and sends them to him. He (Vasu) scans, digitizes and makes them into fonts. I did not discuss anything about the Akruti font issue.

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PLEASE READ THESE KANNADIGAS will know what VASU saying to DECCAN HERALD in 2004 is FALSE.


VASU of BARAHA was NOT TRUTHFUL to reporters in 2004. Now also !!!

SHABDRATNA, the first Kannada Word processing Software developed in 1987 by SRG Systems. Now SRG is not in business because of NUDI and KAGAPA and BARAHA.

NUDI  Fonts has COPIED BARAHA Fonts

VASU is the CULPRIT here for KSD


SHABDRATNA, the first Kannada Word processing Software was
launched by the then Director of Karnataka Govt. Computer
Center during January 1987. This was used extensively by
almost all Offices & Depts of the Govt. of Karnataka.

SRG Systems Letter to V. M. Kumaraswamy in 2004.

SRG Systems Pvt. Ltd. (Software Research Group) is one of the
leading research and development oriented software company in
India. SRG was started in 1984 by T. S. Muthu krishnan who is a
B.Tech from IIT Madras. He has more than 35 years of experience.

S R G was the first Indian company to produce and export packaged
software to European countries like West Germany, Holland,
Belgium , East Asian countries like Singapore, Malaysia & Taiwan
and Middle East countries.

S R G, a professionally managed company, was the first to develop
packages in Indian Languages namely Kannada, Hindi, Tamil, Telugu,
Malayalam, Marathi, Gujrati & Bengali using Indigenous Knowhow
based on extensive experience in the field of Software
development.

SRG has developed several application Software Products and
Packaged Software Packages.

First developed a Word processing Software on Apple System
in USA for a Client in 1983-84.

During 1984-85 SRG had been developing application Software
for various Customers.

Subsequently developed WORDLORD on IBM PC which was later
Exported to Europe in 1985-86 and Far Eastern Countries in
1987.

SHABDRATNA, the first Kannada Word processing Software was
launched by the then Director of Karnataka Govt. Computer
Center during January 1987. This was used extensively by
almost all Offices & Depts of the Govt. of Karnataka.

Kannada DTP Software VENUS Publisher was launched in 1989.
This was used extensively by several Publishers of Kannada
books including NAL Mr. Srinatha Sastry. Govt. of Karnataka
is still using our DTP S/W for Budget presentation.

CHITRAKALA was specially developed for Door Dharshan Kendra,
Bangalore for Kannada Titling and graphics during 1990.

Several other Language Softwares were also released.

During 1993 developed DATA BASE Software Package INEX which
is a Kannada-English Business Software using which various
applications like Financial Accounting, Inventory, Payroll,
MRP, PPC etc. were released. INEX was launched by the then
Minister for Higher Education, Govt. of Karnataka.

During 1994 developed WINKEY Kannada interface for
Windows applications. This was also used extensively by most
of the Offices & Depts of the Govt. of Karnataka.

During 1999 developed KARYALAYA 2000 Multi-lingual office
suite.

During 2001 developed BANK SCRIPT Multi-lingual interface
for Data Processing Applications.

During 2003 developed SRG BROWSER Multi-lingual Internet /
Intranet Browsing Interface.

We had struggled hard to promote Kannada usage in Computers for
more than a decade without any assistance from Govt. of Karnataka
or any other body and even ignoring the more lucrative Commercial
Software development.

In fact we had spent more money for Research & development,
Training and Support for Kannada than we had earned. It was other
Language Softwares particularly Hindi & Tamil which helped us to
make some profit.

We had even provided our Kannada Software free of cost to several
Individuals including Mr. Srinatha Sastry for personal use and
thereby encouraged Kannada usage in Computers.

It is only after Kannada usage in Computers had fully spread as a
result of our promotion, suddenly some individuals found that they
can use the slogan “Kannada promotion” as a ploy to syphon out
Govt. funds which can be shared among them. They had even used
some good persons like Dr. Pavanaja for achieving their goal.

As we were already promoting Kannada without any Govt. funds and
also these individuals had no Technical or Linguistic expertise,
they had decided to use the “Back-door approach”.

First these vested interests formed a group with a catchy name
“Kannada Ganaka Parished” and entered themselves in the books of
Karnataka Govt. claiming to promote Kannada thru’ Computers.

They had implanted the idea of “Kannada Standards” in the minds of
un-suspecting Govt. Officials. They influenced the formation of
Standards committee without including the real users like Typists
or the Kannada Software Developers.

They had wasted Govt. money and time by establishing two
“Redundant Standards” for “Keyboard” which is harmful to
KANNADIGAS, as well as “Mono Lingual font” which is totally
useless as NUDI itself is using Bi-lingual font.

Thousands of POOR UNEMPLOYED KANNADIGAS spend what little money
they have on Kannada typing diploma courses and pass typing exams
using manual typewriter where the speed & accuracy are important.
By adopting a keyboard other than typewriter keyboard would defeat
the very purpose and completely destroy their future.

One can not Promote Kannada at the expense of POOR KANNADIGAS.
It is for this reason we had adopted typewriter keyboard for the
qualified Typists and at the same time provided phonetic typing
for other users.

Further we had written to D.I.T. on 30-6-2000 that most of the
Customers use Bi-lingual fonts and demanded the Standards for
Bi-lingual font. This was totally ignored by them.

After the NUDI Software was rejected by almost all Govt. Staff,
they came out with their own “Non-Standard” Bi-lingual font
thereby making the “Font Standard” as Redundant by themselves.

This was the level of intelligence at KGP.

Then they had influenced the Govt. to appoint themselves (KGP) as
the “Certifying Agency” for these “Redundant Standards” and forced
the Govt. to part with more than Rs. 2 Lakhs for this purpose.

They had also used certain Corrupt Govt. Officials to sanction
funds to the tune of Rs.27.65 lakhs for the Kannada Software
Development, which even a well established S/W Company will find
it difficult to achieve.

No standard procedure like Tender or Multiple Quotations was
followed by D.I.T. The KGP is not a Govt. body either.

KGP without any infrastructure for Software development, not even
a proper office or a Computer, was awarded such a huge Software
Contract. This also shows the level of Corruption and the
Influence they had used.

In fact we have not earned so much money during the last 17 years
of Kannada Software development.

KGP had already Certified our Software earlier. After the
“Contract” was awarded, KGP had no Idea of “How to go about”.

Hence, the second certification “Drama” was enacted jointly by
Corrupt Officials of the D.I.T. and the vested interests in KGP
with the sole aim of pirating the Kannada Software Technology of
the Software Developers.

They had asked the un-suspecting Software Developers to
demonstrate and explain the Language Technology to the “KGP team”
which included the part-time programmer who had later “developed”
NUDI.

It is humanly impossible for a part-time programmer to do Research
& development and come out with an Original Software in such a
short time. The Truth is simple common sense, obvious and glaring.

Then the “Certifying” Agency themselves “Certified” their own
“developed” Software NUDI and “sold” it to D.I.T. at a huge cost.

Obviously the vested interests in KGP would not have spent more
than Rs. 15,000/= for the part-time programmer. But they had
managed to syphon out Lakhs of Rupees of Govt. funds which was
obviously shared by these vested interests with those Corrupt
Officials of the D.I.T.

The claim of “saving money for the Govt.” is a fraud. As there is
no support or service, which the Software Developers provide, the
NUDI Software will be dumped by the user and entire money “spent”
for NUDI will go down the drain. If the Govt. wants to provide the
support or service, the cost will be enormous and will run into
crores of Rupees.

If at all the D.I.T. Officials wanted to save money for the Govt.
they should have called for Tender or Competitive Quotations
instead of accepting the “fancy prices” quoted by KGP. Or atleast
they should have approached CDAC or NCST which are Govt. bodies.

The main aim of this Corruption and Nepotism is to destroy Kannada
Software development in Karnataka. Such a rampant Corruption and
Nepotism has never happened in any other State in India.

This has totally destroyed small and medium Software Developers.
This has also resulted in the retrenchment of staff thereby
creating unemployment.

Later the half baked NUDI Software did not find any taker as almost
all Govt.Staff had rejected it. After finding that the resistance is too
strong, they had used the Hon’ble Chief Minister himself as a
“tool” to push the NUDI Software and thrust it down the throats of
the resisting Govt. Staff.

If this is called “KANNADA PROMOTION”, then I feel sorry for
KANNADA.

In addition to the above I have come across more documentary
evidences to prove the SWINDLING OF PUBLIC FUNDS by KGP with help
of D.I.T. namely :

1. Letter from Registrar of Societies about KGP.

2. Audited Financial Statements of KGP.

3. “Donation Receipt” for Selling of Govt. Property by KGP.

From the Letter from Registrar of Societies it is obvious that the
KGP is a DEFUNCT SOCIETY and is not entitled to receive any funds
from the Govt. However the KGP has already received Rs. 12,36,040
from the Govt. as of 31-3-2002. Further, they are also Selling the
Govt. Property and earning Interest from Govt. funds.

D.I.T. had stated that “The ownership of the software vests with
the Department and KGP has no right over it”. However KGP has been
selling the software CDs and had already earned Rs. 18,800 as of
31-3-2002 and still continuing to do so. This selling is being
done in a clandestine manner by calling it a “Donation”.

It is also evident from the Financial Statements of KGP that a sum
of Rs. 6.14 Lakhs, which was in excess of actual expenditure, is
being held in Bank deposits. While the Govt. is facing paucity of
funds and borrowing at high Interest, a DEFUNCT SOCIETY is holding
excess funds from the Govt. and earning Interest on Govt. funds.

Further, the Section 3 of THE KARNATAKA TRANSPARENCY IN PUBLIC
PROCUREMENT ACT 1999 exempts only the projects funded by
International Financial Agencies, which obviously means that all
other Govt. funded projects including this “DEAL” are
automatically covered by the ACT.

D.I.T’s repeated claim that KGP is a “NON PROFIT ORGANISATION”
itself amounts to cheating as Rs.27.65 Lakhs is virtually a
ransom. Even PROFIT making commercial establishments like ours can
develop for Rs.16.00 Lakhs and still make PROFIT.

The allegation of creation of Monopoly is also proved by the G.O.
Dated 27.12.2001 in which virtually all possible Kannada Softwares
are covered leaving NOTHING for other Software Developers thereby
depriving the Software Developers their right to survive and
“physically eliminating” them so that no body will be there to
question the illegal procurement of Kannada Software from the
KGP and the misuse of public fund.

While the crooks in KGP are syphoning out the Govt. Funds as
“Honourarium” to already employed / retired persons, the “Real
Promoters” of Kannada are forced to face the unemployment. This
amounts to “making the Rich Richer, the Poor Poorer”

It is highly deplorable to “monopolize” the Kannada Software
developments by encouraging the “Middle men” as KGP can not
develop any Software themselves .

As these vested interests were not really interested in promoting
Kannada, they had also indulged in playing politics by creating
Regional bias as some of the Developers including me are not
KANNADIGAS. It is in fact a good sign to note that NON-KANNADIGAS
are promoting Kannada and one should feel happy about that.

With Kind Regards,

T. S. Muthukrishnan
Managing Director
SRG Systems Pvt. Ltd.

______________________________

________

A. Sathyanarayana, KGP Founder Secretary on NUDI,

BARAHA, KAGAPA/KGP

http://ellakavi.wordpress.com /2007/11/06/a-sathyanarayana -kgp-founder-secretary-on-nudi -baraha-kagapakgp/

Dr. U. B. Pavanaja was also FONUDER MEMBER of KAGAPA / KGP during this time.

Dr.U.B.Pavanaja-Me, Kannada and IT-KGP and Good, Bad and

Ugly-Font issues-Akruti, Baraha and Nudi

http://ellakavi.wordpress.com /2007/11/06/drubpavanaja-me -kannada-and-it-kgp-and-good -bad-and-ugly-font-issues -akruti-baraha-and-nudi/

VASU’s email 2004 to AKRUTHI Owner and What VASU is quoting

afterwards is WRONG and read What Dr. U. B. Pavanaja says about VASU.

http://ellakavi.wordpress.com /2007/11/06/vasus-email-2004 -to-akruthi-owner-and-what -vasu-is-quoting-afterwards-is -wrong-and-read-what-dr-u-b -pavanaja-says-about-vasu/

BARAHA Vasu’s interview to Deccan Herald in 2004 and Dr. U. B. Pavanaja’s comments

http://ellakavi.wordpress.com /2007/11/06/baraha-vasu%e2%80 %99s-interview-to-deccan -herald-in-2004-and-dr-u-b -pavanajas-comments/

June 17, 2008 Posted by | Anand of Akruthi Fonts on Baraha, NUDI and KGP, Anbarsan on NUDI, KAGAPA and KGP, KANNADA, Kannada Software Development -KSD, Sathyanaryana on NUDI, BARAHA and KGP, Sheshadri Vasu, Sheshadrivasu, VASU | Leave a comment

once you release this product, the Kannada s/w industry in Karnataka will be shut down.

INTERNAL EMAILS of KGP/KAGAPA

IN FIGHTING AMONG MEMBERS since 2002

PROBLEMS at KANNADA GANAKA PARISHAT “KGP/KAGAPA” since 2002

July 17th 2002 , 12:45 PM  to December 26, 2002 , 2:47 PM

Mr. Udaya Shankar Puranik email dated July 17th 2002

Dr. U. B. Pavanaja email dated July  17th 2002

Spellchecker from Modularinfotech.com email dated July 13th 2002 to
Pandithardhya and Pavanaja

Prakash R email dated July 18th 2002

Dr. U. B. Pavanaja email dated December 23rd 2002

Harsha Kodanad email dated December 2nd 2002

Dr. U. B. Pavanaja email dated December 01st 2002

Mr. S. K Anand of Cyberscapeindia email dated December 23rd 2002

Dr. U. B. Pavanaja email dated December 24th 2002

Mr. Yatheendranath T. J. email dated December 24th or 25th 2002 to
reply to Uday S Puranik, email dated December 24th 2002

Dr. U. B. Pavanaja email dated December 26th 2002

Anand S.K email dated December 23rd 2002

Anand S. K. email dated December 26th 2002

WHAT the IT SECRETRAY VIVEK KULAKARNI told in 2001 and 2002

Some important information out of

INTERNAL EMAILS of KANNADA GANAKA PARISHAT

From: Dr. U.B. Pavanaja <pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>
To: <KGPExecMembers@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [KGPExecMembers] (Fwd) Re: nudi lib problem
Date: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:38 AM

> >From the statement of Pavanaja:
>
> ” I remember what Mr Vivek Kulkarni has told, about 15 months
> ago, after watching the demo of Kalitha at KGP. He told
> “once you release this product, the Kannada s/w industry in
> Karnataka will be shut down. Then you should be ready to
> fill the vacuum. You should be able to provide full-pledged
> support. You should have an office to answer telephone
> calls, have a web-based support, suppport by email, etc.
> When you make the roadmap, ask for enough money for support
> activities also.”.


Pavanaja Wrote:

Unfortunately, in every meeting this fact was accepted by
everyone but s/w development orders were undertaken
clandestainly by KGP without informing the executive committee
.

Some such examples -
1) Font conversion for Vijaya Karnataka
2) Payroll s/w for D.I.T., Govt of Karnataka. Mr Shrinatha
Shastry’s son is working with Mr Rajkrishna at DIT for this job.
3) Culture directory for Dept of Kannada and Culture, Govt of
Karnataka. A sample has been made.
4) Dasa Sahithya web-site for Dept of Kannada and Culture, Govt
of Karnataka. A sample web-site was made and shown to the
concerned authorities.

None of these were discussed in any of the meetings.

Pavanaja wrote:

In fact, Mr Vivek Kulkarni suggested me to release the source
code under GPL. He told me to do so about 8 months ago. When I
mentioned this to Mr Shrinatha Shastry, he stronlgy opposed it
and told me not to do so. He said he will talk to Mr Vivek
Kulkarni about it. I don’t know what happenned afterwards.
Probably if we had released it under GPL, someone might have
made a Linux version by this time. Many people from Linux
community regularly ask me the question “why the source code is
not available under GPL?”. We should release the source code
since this is Govt sponsored project and hence every citizen has
a right on that. If someone files a Public Intereset Litigation
in the courts, we will be bound to release the source code. It
is better to release the source code before someone forces us to
do so.

People involved at Kannada Ganaka parishat “KGP / KAGAPA”

Dr. Srinatha Sastry
Dr. Pandithaardhya
Mr. G. N. Narasimhamurthy
Mr. Prakash R
Mr. Yatheendranath
Mr. Udaya shankar Puranik
Mr. Harsha Kodanad

Following People were kickedout because of probelms in KGP

For raising issues against KGP-KAGAPA members

Srinatha Sastry, Panditharadhya and Narasimha Murthy


Dr. U. B. Pavanaja
Mr. Anand S. K

On Wed, 17 Jul 2002 Dr. U.B. Pavanaja wrote :

>namaskAra,

>

Has anyone replied to the following mail? If so, please send me a copy. If not, please decide who will reply to this mail and also to all such mails in future.

>

>sigONa,

>Pavanaja

>——- Forwarded message follows ——-

>To: pandita@eth.net, pavanaja@vishvakannada.com,

>gnnmurthy@indiatimes.com, ganakaparishat@ganakaparishat.org,

>ganaka@vishvakannada.com, ganakaparishat@email.com

From: spellchecker group <spellchecker@modular-infotech.com>

Subject: Regarding kannada KGP Keyboard & FontLayOut.

Send reply to: spellchecker@modular-infotech.com

Date sent: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 16:29:55 +0500

Pritiya Panditaradyaji & Dr. U.B. Pavanaja

I would like to introduce myself first, I Mr.Pandurang. A. Hosamani working as a senior software engineer in MODULAR INFOTCH LTD, Pune. Our company has been working for indian language solutions on computer from last 20 years. During this period we have developed many products including the famous SHREE-LIPI.

I would like to thank Mr. Panditaradyaji, Dr. U.B. Pavanaja for their kind help. For all my mails I have got quick & prompt reply from Mr. Panditaradyaji, thank you very much for that.

According to your KGP standards we are developing KGP Font Layout & Keyboard, but it seems we are having two versions of your documents.

I would like to know whether the documents sent by Mr. Panditaradyaji is latest & final(Especially for FontLayOut chart). Please let us know about the same. One more thing please send us the bilingual Fontlayout chart.

Once again thank you very much for your cooperation.

Prtiyinda,

P.A.HOSAMANI

Modular Infotech Pvt Ltd ,Pune

No 26,

Electronic Estate

Pune-Satara Road,

>——- End of forwarded message ———–

>——————————-

>Dr. U.B. Pavanaja

>Editor, Vishva Kannada

>World’s first Internet magazine in Kannada

>http://www.vishvakannada.com/

_______________________________________________

From: uday S puranik <upuranik@rediffmail.com>

To: <KGPExecMembers@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: Dr.U.B.Pavanaja <pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>; <ganaka@vishvakannada.com>

Subject: Re: [KGPExecMembers] (Fwd) Regarding kannada KGP Keyboard & FontLayOut.

Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 12:45 PM

Hi

It was decided in the executive commitee meeting, that all such

mails will be and should be replied by the secretary of Kannada

Ganaka Parishat.

Hence you must be sending such mails to the mail id of the

secretary.

with regards

Udaya Shankar Puranik

From: Prakash <prakash@msrsas.org>

To: KGPExecMembers <KGPExecMembers@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: [KGPExecMembers] who needs to answer

Date: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:04 AM

Dear Friends,

I strongly support Mr. Puraniks view and what was decided in our recent

meetings that the secretary of KGP must answer to all such queries to avoid

ambiguities. I feel other members can send their views to Secretary, KGP

who can make corrections before sending them. As the time has come to show

the strengths of KGP as an organization as felt my many members it is good

for all of us to stand behind our Secretary and pose one opinion as

standard. The other organizations who are interested in KGP activities

should get professional and unambiguous support.

Prakash R.

—– Original Message —–

From: “Dr. U.B. Pavanaja”

<pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>

To: <harsha@vishvakannada.com>

Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 8:02 PM

Subject: nudi lib problem

>Dear Harsha,

>

> I have figured out that there is some problem with the kannada-

> nudi.lib and kannada-nudi.dll regarding the calling conventions.

> Logo is working well with kalitha.lib and dll. If I change it to

> Nudi it is giving an error in OMF (Object Module Format). I have

> changed the reference properly. There is no prblem with that. I

> got it verified by one Borland C++ expert from HP.

>

> If you think that there is no error in the Nudi lib and dll,

> then pl send me one simple sample C++ program using Nudi dll and

> lib. I will try to compile by Borland C++ to verify. If you have

> changed the dll and lib recently while doing the “reverse” then

> send that version of dll and lib so that I can check whether

> that is working.

>

> Your immediate reply will be highly appreciated.

>

> Regards,

> Pavanaja—————————————————–

> Dr. U.B. Pavanaja

> Editor, Vishva Kannada

> World’s first Internet magazine in Kannada

> http://www.vishvakannada.com/

>

> Note: I don’t worry about pselling mixtake

—— Forwarded message follows ——-

From: “Harsha Kodnad” <kmharsha@hotmail.com>

To: “Dr. U.B. Pavanaja”

<pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>

Subject: Re: nudi lib problem

Date sent: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 10:32:17 +0530

Sir,

I am sure and confident that there is no problem with kannada-nudi.lib and

kannada-nudi.dll. for defferent compilers and linkers you need to change the

defnitions of the functions and calling method in header file. which you have the

source and you can modify that also. And I am also very sure that you dont need

to change the calling convension since from the begining of KalithaI am using

thewindows standard calling convension ‘__stdcall’ and still it is same. so itmust

work.

Most of the standard libraries provided with companies wont work for different

compilers, As a programmer we need to do some R&D and do some changes in

our source code by which we can use the library. Anybody who has used

windows SDKs, Win32 APIs will be able to easily use my Nudi SDK. cause it

comes out with standard convensions.

I have installed windows ME on my machine yesterday I have some problem

in installing Boreland C++ today I will install it.onceI install everythingI will be

able to give you a nudi header file which is compatible with Boreland c++

compiler so that you can reduce some borden on the programmer.

As a nudi developer I can give you support for nudi as early as possible by me,

but I can’t teach anybody C, C++ or what ever, cause I am not a computer faculty

and also I am not paid for that.

So its not a Nudi lib problem its a programmer’s problem.

You know C, C++, VC++, Palm OS, Windows CE, Win32 Programming, You

are the Project Manager / Developer of Nudi, Palm Nudi, Nudi for Jornada, All

coding also done by you, and I am surprised that you cant solve a silli linking

problem!

Once I have installed Boreland C++, I will call you and tell you the instructions

to link kannada-nudi.lib. what are the canges need to be made in header files and

all those things.

Regards,

Harsha

From: Dr. U.B. Pavanaja <pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>

To: <KGPExecMembers@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: [KGPExecMembers] (Fwd) Re: nudi lib problem

Date: Monday, December 23, 2002 10:38 AM

To: The members of the Software Sub-committee, KGP.

cc: Executive Committee members, KGP.

As all of you are aware I am making a Kannada version of

the world-famous LOGO program, used to teach programming

concepts to school children. The program is written in

Borland C++ Version 5.02. 3 years ago, when I started it,

it was using Akruti fonts but no DLL. Later on it was

changed over to Kalitha font and Kaliha DLL. This

conversion was done by Harsha, who is the developer of

Kalitha and Nudi. Recently when I have appointed a

developer to complete the task. Now the DLL and LIB to be

used have become Nudi. When Kalitha was made, a DLL and LIB

files were given for programmers. LOGO is working with

these DLL and LIB to some extent. LOGO has two windows to

enter the text. In one window, the Kalitha DLL and LIB are

working. In another window Kalitha DLL and LIB are not

working.

When we tried to use the Nudi DLL and LIB, we get linking

errors. It says “Error in Object Module Format (OMF)”. The

header file given with Kalitha and Nudi are different. The

functions and their properties have changed. I informed the

problem to Harsha, the developer of Nudi. He told over

phone that the problem must be in linking. I tried again. I

even called one Borland C++ expert from HP and asked him to

look into. He said that the person who wrote the DLL and

LIB only can solve this problem. When I wrote a mail to

Harsha about this he replied arrogantly that he is not a

faculty to teach C++ programming. He could have tried

linking his DLL and LIB using Borland C++ and sent me a

sample as requested by me. The Nudi SDK contains only a VB

sample and no C++ sample. Now I have decided to finish the

LOGO project without explicitly making use of the SDK.

Instead I will give a LOGO package with all fonts being

changed to Nudi Akshsara. The user has to manually invoke

the Nudi keyboard driver before starting LOGO. This is how

people are using Nudi for DTP. I don’t have any other

option left.

Some contradictions in Harsha’s mail:

In one place he says “As a programmer we need to do some R&D and do some changes in our source code by which we can use the library”. In another place he says “Anybody who has used windows SDKs, Win32 APIs will be able to easily use my Nudi SDK. cause it comes out with standard convensions”.

Don’t you think these two are contradictory to each other? Why at all one should do R & D to use any library is that library is using standard conventions? Again he says “So its not a Nudi lib problem its a programmer’s problem”. But he has not substantiated his claim.

I remember what Mr Vivek Kulkarni has told, about 15 months ago, after watching the demo of Kalitha at KGP. He told “once you release this product, the Kannada s/w industry in Karnataka will be shut down. Then you should be ready to fill the vacuum. You should be able to provide full-pledged support. You should have an office to answer telephone calls, have a web-based support, suppport by email, etc. When you make the roadmap, ask for enough money for support activities also.”.

I am an executive committee member of KGP. I mentioned the problem on Dec.1. So far I did not get any sample file as promised. If an exec. commiitee member also can not get

support for a simple linking problem then I wonder what will be the status of 5 crore Kannadigas who will become dependent on KGP for Kannada s/w developments, mainly for the toolkit.

I don’t put all the blames on Harsha. He is working at Tally. He works mostly up to night 10-11 pm, almost daliy. He has no time to spare for KGP, inspite of a PC being

given to him and money being paid above and over the given PC. KGP should have someone work full-time for Nudi. I request the software sub-committee people to look into this serious problem. Please take remedial action before an outsider writes about these peoblems in newspapers.

What work Rajkrishna and Krishnamurthy are doing? Why are they being paid? As I understand, Nudi works is done by Harsha and Santhosh. Fonts are being made by someone from Koppa. Staroffice and Linux work is done by Ramsimha and his team. Then what are the roles assigned to Rajkrishna and Krishnamurthy? Why can’t they be trained and made in-charge for Nudi? So that we need not torture Harsha.

Thanks and regards,

Pavanaj

From: <anand_sk@vsnl.com>

  1. To: <KGPExecMembers@yahoogroups.com>

Cc: <pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>

Subject: [KGPExecMembers] Problems with Nudi DLL’s

Date: Monday, December 23, 2002 5:51 PM

The KGP Executive Committee members,

I am quite pained to hear of the lack of support for the Nudi DLL’s that Pavanaja is facing. If a KGP exec committee member has to face this one can well imagine the plight of a common kannada software developer.

I think the main reason for this kind of problem is that the whole software development for Kalitha and Nudi started of in a hush hush manner and was intended to stab the back of those Independent Software Vendors(ISVs) who were working in this area including people like us who were used by M/s. Srinath Sastry and Narsimurthy to tap on us for any technical expertise, when they had no idea about the the technical issues regarding kannada keyboards and coding issues.

They got a part time developer like Harsha to reverse engineer the fonts and coding and the workings of software like Akruti (submitted to the KGP for evaluation). This is how painstaking work which took software vendors more than a decade to come to the current levels could be easily done within a year or so.

>From the statement of Pavanaja:

” I remember what Mr Vivek Kulkarni has told, about 15 months

ago, after watching the demo of Kalitha at KGP. He told

“once you release this product, the Kannada s/w industry in

Karnataka will be shut down. Then you should be ready to

fill the vacuum. You should be able to provide full-pledged

support. You should have an office to answer telephone

calls, have a web-based support, suppport by email, etc.

When you make the roadmap, ask for enough money for support

activities also.”.

It becomes very clear that the plan to eliminate ISV’s was more than 15 months old. Some blame should also be placed at Pavanaja’s shoulder for having aided and abbetted Sastry and Narsimurthy in this murky business. After all it was he who introduced this very same Harsha to KGP.

Firstly, I think the only way of cleaning up this shady business is to open up the source code to the technically competent executive committee members of the KGP to start with so that support could be provided by them rather than some part time programmers who dance to the tune of a select few.

Later on in true open source methodology, the source may be put out in the public domain available to all Kannadigas.

Secondly, from various media releases we have seen a effort by prominent KGP office bearers belittling the motives of some of the ISV’s saying that they are interested in only money.

I would like to ask a simple question. Which of the members of KGP can purport to live without money. Let us accept that nothing is possible without a commercial interest. One cannot hope to live on government doles forever. Any project, no matter how noble it may be, including promotion of Kannada software will be sustainable in the long run only if it is self sustaining in economic terms.

Yes, we as ISV’s charge money for software, because to develop it, to sustain the development and support it continuously costs money and we have no govt. doles to rely upon.

Nudi’s development and release is not the end of the problem. People like me who have developed Akruti many many years ago are still grappling with the problem of supporting our users accross the length and breadth of the country adequately. So expecting a rag tag bunch of amateurs to do it effectively is asking for too much.

I hope the KGP executive committee members put their head to the long term issue and come out with right answers.

More dangerously, we as ISV’s were told that since there is no need for the basic font and interface software after NUDI, we were told to work on Kannda applications. Our company along with ISL came out with e-Karyalaya, a general administration software for govt. offices.

We find a repeat situation happening in the same hush hush and murky manner wherein after having been assured at committee meetings that KGP will not get into applications, we find that KGP employed people like Rajkrishna along with Srinath Sastry’s son are dabbling with DIT and KDA to come out with a reverse engineered software called e-Adalitha.

I would like Mr. Sastry to state the facts very clearly as to what his intentions and interests in this matter are. At least we as ISV’s are upfront in declaring our commercial interest. The worst people according to me are those who say someting in the front and do something else in the back.

If any of the KGP executive committee members or their family members or proxy organisations have any such hidden agendas, I think they should be bold enough to declare it openly and not pretend to be noble hypocrites.

With deep regret at the shameful going ons at KGP.

Anand S.K.

___________________________________________________

From: Dr. U.B. Pavanaja <pavanaja@vishvakannada.com>

To: <KGPExecMembers@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Re: [KGPExecMembers] Problems with Nudi DLL’s

Date: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 12:57 PM

namaskAra,

> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 17:55:21 +0530 (IST)

> anand_sk@vsnl.com wrote

>

> I am quite pained to hear of the lack of support for the Nudi DLL’s

> that Pavanaja is facing. If a KGP exec committee member has to face

> this one can well imagine the plight of a common kannada software

> developer.

>

> I think the main reason for this kind of problem is that the whole

> software development for Kalitha and Nudi started of in a hush hush

> manner and was intended to stab the back of those Independent Software

> Vendors(ISVs) who were working in this area including people like us

> who were used by M/s. Srinath Sastry and Narsimurthy to tap on us for

> any technical expertise, when they had no idea about the the technical

> issues regarding kannada keyboards and coding issues.

>

> They got a part time developer like Harsha to reverse engineer the

> fonts and coding and the workings of software like Akruti (submitted

> to the KGP for evaluation). This is how painstaking work which took

> software vendors more than a decade to come to the current levels

> could be easily done within a year or so.

>

> >From the statement of Pavanaja:

>

> ” I remember what Mr Vivek Kulkarni has told, about 15 months

> ago, after watching the demo of Kalitha at KGP. He told

> “once you release this product, the Kannada s/w industry in

> Karnataka will be shut down. Then you should be ready to

> fill the vacuum. You should be able to provide full-pledged

> support. You should have an office to answer telephone

> calls, have a web-based support, suppport by email, etc.

> When you make the roadmap, ask for enough money for support

> activities also.”.

>

> It becomes very clear that the plan to eliminate ISV’s was more than

> 15 months old. Some blame should also be placed at Pavanaja’s shoulder

> for having aided and abbetted Sastry and Narsimurthy in this murky

> business. After all it was he who introduced this very same Harsha to

> KGP.

I did not introduce Harsha to KGP. He is a distant relative of

Mr Narasimhamurthy. One day, when I had gone to KGP, he was

introduced to me by Mr Narasimhamurthy and Mr Shrinatha Shastry.

I saw the work done by him on DOS regarding Kannada and took him

to Tally. At Tally, we had a plan of developing keyboard drivers

for Indian lanmguages, whih was later abondoned and the toolkits

were bought from CDAC.

I am not part of any murky business. The very first version of

Kalitha was made to test the compliance of other Kannada s/w to

the Govt notification mainly towards keyboard, font encoding and

sorting. When the demo was given, it was not in the form of a

package. After seeing the demo, Mr Vivek Kulkarni suggested to

make it into a package. He also suggested to make a roadmap of

the things to be done apart from this s/w. Then the roadmap was

prepared by Mr Shrinatha Shastry based on the skeleton provided

by me. I gave the plan with cost estimations. But almost all

amounts mentioned by me (based on the industry standard payments

for project manager and developer) were later on slashed to

almost 1/4 th of what I suggested. for ex., I had suggested

Rs.50,000 per font which was reduced to Rs.10,000 per font. Now

everyone knows what happenned to the fonts. There was even an

article in Prajavani’s letters to the editor column mentioning

about the unprofessional fonts supplied by KGP. I had suggested

two alternatives regarding fonts-

1) Buy some good quality fonts from existing vendors

2) Find out a good professioanl font developer of fonts and give

contract to him to make fonts. I had found out one such person

from Pune and requested him to give a good quote for a non-

profit organisation. He gave a quote of Rs.30,000 per font.

Myself and Harsha were strongly against releasing Kalitha without a professioanl font. But all these were thrown to wind and some un-professionals were assigned the task of making fonts.

I had suggested that KGP should have a list of empanelled s/w developers of Kannada which can be submitted to Govt. Govt can give orders to these developers for Kannada s/w developments. My philosophy is “live and let live”. But the philosophy now

followed by KGP is “live and let die”.

I am the person who had foreseen the situation regarding Kannada s/w developments. KGP can not supply s/w to entire Karnataka. Hence it should not venture into application developments. This task should be left to professional developers who will be able to offer professional support for the product and services they offer. Kannada s/w developmental opportunities start with the Govt. If these are fully grabbed by KGP, the Kannada s/w industry will die. Then there will be no industry left to supply Kannada s/w to entire Karnataka. Supplying Kannada s/w to entire Karnataka is definitely beyond the capabilities of KGP.

Unfortunately, in every meeting this fact was accepted by

everyone but s/w development orders were undertaken

clandestainly by KGP without informing the executive committee.

Some such examples -

1) Font conversion for Vijaya Karnataka

2) Payroll s/w for D.I.T., Govt of Karnataka. Mr Shrinatha

Shastry’s son is working with Mr Rajkrishna at DIT for this job.

3) Culture directory for Dept of Kannada and Culture, Govt of

Karnataka. A sample has been made.

4) Dasa Sahithya web-site for Dept of Kannada and Culture, Govt

of Karnataka. A sample web-site was made and shown to the

concerned authorities.

None of these were discussed in any of the meetings.

> Firstly, I think the only way of cleaning up this shady business is to open up the source code to the technically competent executive committee members of the KGP to start with so that support could be provided by them rather than some part time programmers who dance to the tune of a select few.

I agree. I am the initiator of Kalitha (which later became

Nudi). When I asked for the source code for the latest version

to try to make a Unicode version using .NET, I was not given the

source code. I could have helped in making a Unicode version as

I have developed an Opentype font which is needed for Unicode

version.

> Later on in true open source methodology, the source may be put out in

> the public domain available to all Kannadigas.

In fact, Mr Vivek Kulkarni suggested me to release the source code under GPL. He told me to do so about 8 months ago. When I mentioned this to Mr Shrinatha Shastry, he stronlgy opposed it and told me not to do so. He said he will talk to Mr Vivek Kulkarni about it. I don’t know what happenned afterwards. Probably if we had released it under GPL, someone might have made a Linux version by this time. Many people from Linux community regularly ask me the question “why the source code is not available under GPL?”. We should release the source code since this is Govt sponsored project and hence every citizen has a right on that. If someone files a Public Intereset Litigation in the courts, we will be bound to release the source code. It is better to release the source code before someone forces us to do so.

> Secondly, from various media releases we have seen a effort by

> prominent KGP office bearers belittling the motives of some of the

> ISV’s saying that they are interested in only money.

>

> I would like to ask a simple question. Which of the members of KGP can

> purport to live without money. Let us accept that nothing is possible

> without a commercial interest. One cannot hope to live on government

> doles forever. Any project, no matter how noble it may be, including

> promotion of Kannada software will be sustainable in the long run only

> if it is self sustaining in economic terms.

I agree.

> Yes, we as ISV’s charge money for software, because to develop it, to

> sustain the development and support it continuously costs money and we

> have no govt. doles to rely upon.

>

> Nudi’s development and release is not the end of the problem. People like me who have developed Akruti many many years ago are stillgrappling with the problem of supporting our users accross the lengthand breadth of the country adequately. So expecting a rag tag bunch ofamateurs to do it effectively is asking for too much.

>

> I hope the KGP executive committee members put their head to the long

> term issue and come out with right answers.

I agree.

> More dangerously, we as ISV’s were told that since there is no need

> for the basic font and interface software after NUDI, we were told towork on Kannda applications. Our company along with ISL came out with e-Karyalaya, a general administration software for govt. offices.

But then the Nudi SDK should not have any bugs and there should be technical support. I am finding problems here.

> We find a repeat situation happening in the same hush hush and murkymanner wherein after having been assured at committee meetings thatKGP will not get into applications, we find that KGP employed people like Rajkrishna along with Srinath Sastry’s son are dabbling with DITand KDA to come out with a reverse engineered software called

> e-Adalitha.

>

> I would like Mr. Sastry to state the facts very clearly as to what his intentions and interests in this matter are. At least we as ISV’s areupfront in declaring our commercial interest. The worst peopleaccording to me are those who say someting in the front and do

> something else in the back.

>

> If any of the KGP executive committee members or their family membersor proxy organisations have any such hidden agendas, I think theyshould be bold enough to declare it openly and not pretend to be noble

> hypocrites.

>

> With deep regret at the shameful going ons at KGP.

>

> Anand S.K.

I am surprised by the silence of other committee members. We need more committed members to the cause of Kannada than just committee members.

My words are always bitter. Because truth is always bitter. I believe in “vasthunistha” rather than “vyakthinistha”.

I request all the committee members to think beyond some individuals and look at the cause of Kannada.

Thanks for everyone for reading this lengthy mail.

sigONa,

Pavanaja

—————————————————–

Dr. U.B. Pavanaja

Editor, Vishva Kannada

World’s first Internet magazine in Kannada

http://www.vishvakannada.com/

Note: I don’t worry about pselling mixtakes

____________________________________________

—–Original Message—–

> From: Yatheendranath T J [mailto:yathi@adamya.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 4:50 PM

> To: KGPExecMembers@yahoogroups.com

> Subject: Re: [KGPExecMembers] Problems with Nudi DLL’s

> namaskaara,

>

> I agree with Uday. We must not forget the basic objectives of KGP.

> I think some are peeved mixing up 2 issues -

> 1. The objectives of KGP

> 2. Commercial considerations due to KGP activity

> May be we need to address these issues separately.

>

> It is sad and unfair if the struggle and achievements made by the active KGP members are belittled. There could be disagreements on the way things are being done, but if the end result is doing good to the upliftment of kannaDa in any way, one should be happy and proud of being a part of it, in some way or the other.

> Best is to stop this chain of mails and fix a place and time for open discussion. So long as we don’t suspect the intentions and integrity of co-members, and if we are open to any decision the committee makes, we sure will be able to resolve all concerns amicably.

> I think, opening nuDi source code to public is a good proposition.

> We need to address IP and other related issues though.

> warm regards,

>

> yathi

Yatheendranath T J Tel: Co-Founder and COO

Off: +91 (80) 322-1780, 322-0594

Adamya Computing Technology (P) Cell: +91-98440-74381865/2,

Dr. Modi Hospital Road, Fax: +91 (80) 322-5071

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================================================

uday S puranik wrote:

> Hi everybody

>

> I am surprised by the tone and tenor of the recent discussions.

>

> If the purpose of this forum is to indulge in mudslinging and

> character assasination, it does no good for the Ganaka parishat

> and I dont want to spoil my name and position in the industry by

> associating with this forum.

>

> The executive comittee members have a mind of thier own and need

> advice on what they should be doing or thinking about.

>

> Any problem can always be sorted out by discussion and that is if

> there is belief in cooperation and not confrontation.

>

> Hope we all can still work together and further the cause of the

> Ganaka Parishat.

>

> with regards

Udaya S Puranik

_______________________________________________

>

> hi,

>

> finally two sensible mails. one from mr. uday puranik and the other

> from mr. yatheendranath.

>

> it is indeed futile to indulge in character assassination and nothing

> will come out of it except a bitter and ugly feeling lingering within

> everyone, including the ones who wrote such mails. we must discuss

> these issues in a meeting when everyone concerned is present. there

> will always be disgreements no matter what path one takes. these

> issues must be ironed out amicably.

>

> regards to all.

>

> -vidyadhar mudkavi

> dec 26, 2002

From: <anand_sk@vsnl.com>

To: <KGPExecMembers@yahoogroups.com>

Subject: Meeting to sort out issues

Date: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:47 PM

Dear KGP Exec committee members,

I think the suggestion to hold a face to face meeting to sort out the issues aired earlier is fine, can the date and time be worked out and informed well in advance.

Most active groups like the open source forums have very lively discussions online. These are precursors to the actual face to face meetings. I think it may be a healthy practice to follow, since most of the participants would already have done their homework on the issues to be discussed. The reasons for this is everybody’s time is precious and physical meetings entails a lot of time and effort and it should be used in the final stages for conclusive action plans and not for debating.

Online discussions are far better suited for airing out contrary and dissenting views, which can be resolved to a large extent by online debate. This is a very efficient means to arrive at consensus which can be ratified at physical meetings. I disagree that these are chain mails. The first motive should be exchange of views and to step up the level of involvement of the normally dormant members. In fact I find a very disturbing silence on part of the key functionaries of the KGP and complete lack of participation.

In fact though we call ourselves Ganaka Parishat, there is hardly any usage of this wonderful electronic medium for interaction as has been pointed out earlier by Pavanaja. The advantages are besides encouraging transparency it is self documenting and if there is a fear that they may degenerate to mudslinging then the very fact that everything a person says or reacts to is being recorded is enough reason for the medium to be self policing. It is very much like putting our venerable MLA’s and MP’s on camera. Let the people at large judge the quality of the debate and not some interested censors or editors. That is if we have nothing to fear in being forthright and we have the will to swallow bitter truth.

So much so that most of our KGP business could be conducted on email or better still on live online discussion forms to save time and physical inconvenience and beat the distance barrier.

Hope to hear from more of you soon. With regards.

Anand S.K.

April 20, 2008 Posted by | Anand of Akruthi Fonts on Baraha, NUDI and KGP, Anbarsan on NUDI, KAGAPA and KGP, Baraha, CIIL Kannada, Govt. of Karnataka - GoK, Kannada Software Development -KSD, KGP, KGP Founder Secretary on KSD issues, Muttukrishnan on KGP, Nudi and KAGAPA, Pavanaja on NUDI, Baraha and KGP, RCILTS Kannada, Sathyanaryana on NUDI, BARAHA and KGP, Sheshadrivasu, VASU | Leave a comment

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December 9, 2007 Posted by | Anand of Akruthi Fonts on Baraha, NUDI and KGP, Anbarsan on NUDI, KAGAPA and KGP, Baraha, Google Kannada, kagapa, Pavanaja on NUDI, Baraha and KGP, Sheshadri Vasu, Sheshadrivasu, VASU | Leave a comment

KGP – What it is? What it has done? – By Anbarasan pf PEOPLESOFT

KGP – What it is? What it has done? – By Anbarasan pf PEOPLESOFT

 

In all its reality KGP is not qualified for developing Kannada software on the following grounds:

1. KGP was not existing for three years prior to sanctioning funds.
2. KGP has not developed any software prior to sanctioning of funds.
3. KGP is a certifying agency. A certifying agency itself can’t enter into development of competitive products which they are supposed to certify as it is most illogic like a referee, umpire or an examiner himself taking the competition by himself.

 

KGP doesn’t have any expertise in developing software. KGP has developed Nudi in a clandestine manner. As KGP is the certifying agency, all the Kannada software developers have submitted their software. KGP gained inner details by means of demonstration and discussions etc with developers (please note that GoK has not disclosed any details on developing their Kannada software Nudi). KGP pirated the fonts submitted to it by various Kannada software developers.

August 28, 2006 Posted by | Anbarsan on NUDI, KAGAPA and KGP, KAMBARA | 2 Comments

As KUVEMPU writes: “naDe muMde naDe muMde, nuggi naDe muMde…… masaNavaaali edeyu raNaraMgadalli”.

Sada Kannada <sadakannada@yahoo.com> wrote onAugust 4th 2006

So what do you propose?  What most of us would want to know is, if someone volunteers, where should he/she start?  OK, if some Kannada implementation capability is to be provided at the kernel level, that may not voilate any standards (I am not sure), but if applications are developed without any standards, developers will be in a deep shit, surely.

If standards are not foreseen for later compatibility and are done by unprofessionals, then the whole effort of the invoved is in vain.  This will be like a silent kill.  Better people involved behave with atleast some accountability.

Since you have faced many a things, can you tell us what should be the right thing for KSD to progress at the right pace keeping in pace with the developments happening in English?

I am only interested in the technical matters, the legal matters, I am just not bothered.  Better we do it now, or may never will be able to do it.

It is like saying in the words of our Poet Laureate Kuvempu “naDe muMde naDe muMde, nuggi naDe muMde…… masaNavaaali edeyu raNaraMgadalli”.

Let us put our most spirited effort to get Nudi as a FREE software and let us not stop until we reach our goal as a great saint and monk of India put as “Arise, Awake, stop not till you reach the goal”.

Let us be guided by such greats and derive inspiration to work for our language.  Waiting for your plan and reply.

August 26, 2006 Posted by | Anbarsan on NUDI, KAGAPA and KGP, Kannada Fonts Developers | 2 Comments

Monopoly of KGP – Prepared by Mr. N. Anbarsan

Monopoly of KGP – Prepared by Mr. N. Anbarsan

Through this press note, I briefly explain the facts related to the act of Monopoly of KGP, which has unethically monopolized the Kannada software development thereby causing irreparable damages to the development of Kannada on computers.

KGP has monopolized the Kannada software development in the following way:

1. by violating the standards prescribed for Kannada software

a. Using Non-Standard encoding.

b.Non provision of conversion utility to handle ISCII and standard encoding.

c.Non provision of any conversion utility to convert data using existing Kannada software.

d. Non issuance of certificates to the Kannada software developers to block their software.

e. Has developed Nudi without providing the standard manual typing method, which is being taught in polytechniques and is mandatory for recruitment of Typists and stenographers.

2. Bagged order to develop all the required software for Kannada.

3. Blocks the development of Kannada software by developing various software.

4. Acts as a middleman and gets the work done from the unrecognized developers.

5. Kills competition by forcing the users to use their uncertified, non-standard software.

Violation of Govt standards

I draw your attention to the item 1 of the G.O maa.tham.e 6 neesamvi 2000 Bangalore, dated 1.11.2000 QUOTE Kannada lipi thanthraamsha thayaarikaru, ee aadheshakke lagathisiruva anubhandhadhalliruva shishta mathu eaka roopa kannada aksharabhagagalu mathu ASCII sankethagalanne balasathakkadhdhu UNQUOTE which restricts the Kannada software developers to use only the standardized glyph codes and forbids to use any other coding in their Kannada software. However, KGP has devised a new non-standard proprietary encoding to take advantage over other softwares to monopolise Kannada software field.

In the same G.O, item 5 states that only those software developed as per the G.O to be included in the list of Govt approved software/software developers/software vendors are to be used QUOTE ee mele helalaadha ella nibhandhanegalige olapattu sidhdhapadisalaadha kannada thanthraamshagalu maathra sarkaaradha maanyathe padedha adhikrutha thanraamsagala / thnthraamsha thayaarakara / thanthraamsha maaraatagaarara pattiyallirabeku UNQUOTE. Eventhough, no one has certified Nudi for its conformity with the standard, Nudi is being distributed to user departments and general public.

The G.O in reference also insists the Govt departments and organizations to use only the kannada software which has been certified to meet the requirement of G.O. Item 6 reads as QUOTE karnaataka sarkaaradha ella ilaakegalu, karnaataka sarkaaradha swaamyake seridha nigamagalu, mandaligalu, praadikaaragalu, vishwavidhyaalayagalu, vidhyasamthegalu, sthaleeya samsthegalu, anudhanitha samsthegalu ee nibhandhanegalige olapattu pramaaneekruthavaadha kannada lipi thanraamshagalannu maathra balasabeku UNQUOTE.

Even after DIT directs KGP to issue certificates to those software which are in compliance with the stipulated standards, KGP has not issued any certificate but issued a report for having tested the software, probably with the hidden agenda of blocking the other softwares.

Govt of Karnataka elevated KGP as a sole Kannada software developer

The preamble to the G.O maa.tham.e 234 a.da.vi 2001 dated 27.12.2001 clearly outlines the role of KGP as a sole Kannada software developer. QUOTE sarkaradha kacherigalalli dhainandhina kelasagalalli kannadavannu sampoornavaagi balasalu agathyavaadha kelavu anvayaka thanthramsagalannu kannada ganaka parishaththu abhivrudhdhi padisi kaalakaalakke adhannu uththamapadisuva hagu innithara anvayaka thanthraamsagalannu abhivrudhdhi padisuva… UNQUOTE

Is it not an action of MONOPOLY? One must realize that when the end user is not having any alternate choice, he ends up with monopolized product. For anything and everything, healthy competition paves ways for advancement and creating new records. so also the same yardstick applies in the case of development of Kannada software. Unfortunately, this has been bypassed. In the instant issue any growth of technology is naturally to come through research, as it happened always in the past.

Blocks the development of Kannada software

KGP is also developing other software which is not covered in the list of G.O to sanction funds. Few examples of such software are Vethana to meet the accounting requirement and e-Adalitha to meet the office administrative requirement. Release of Vethana was also reported by some of the leading dailies.

KGP as a middleman

As is evident from Nudi software, the Copyrights of various components of Nudi rests with certain individuals. It proves that KGP is a middleman engaging certain select individuals and firms to derive the requisite results.

KGP Kills competition

KGP in nexus with officials in DIT has successfully installed Nudi software in all the computers of user departments. In order to achieve the goal of monopolized use of Nudi in every computers of GoK user departments, KGP and DIT jointly enacted the drama of “testing software”. DIT sent letters to all the user departments to use Nudi falsely claiming Nudi has been developed in conformity with the standards prescribed for Kannada software. KGP hired students to install the software in all the computers including the Secretariate network, which connects all the departments.

GoK has implemented its e-Governance projects using non-standard encoding by using the non-standard Nudi software. KGP also influences use its non-standard encoding through its SDK to implement various other Govt and non-Govt computerization projects.

In the name of standardization, KGP has messed up things. Grabbed the user bases in the name of standardization and forced the users to use non-standard encoding. As a result KGP achieved monopoly hold in Kannada software development.

As a result of this nexus NO developers could develop any innovative softwares or technologies to meet the growing needs of Kannada on computers.

Demands

1. We urge the GoK to immediately stop the usage of Nudi which does not meet the laid down criteria and which is not certified until it fully conforms to the prescribed standards and is certified by competent agency.

2. We urge the GoK to remove the unfair restrictive conditions imposed on the Kannada software developers and have level playing field for all Kannada software developers.

3. We seek the Govt to implement the standard typing method adopted in the courses conducted by the Directorate of Technical Education and various other institutions in all the computerization projects.

August 21, 2006 Posted by | Anbarsan on NUDI, KAGAPA and KGP | 3 Comments

KGP’s Monkey business

KGP’s Monkey business

The selfish mean-minded executive members of KGP has unleashed series of onslaught on Kannada software developers and has also diverted the public attention by making baseless statements. Their attitude clearly proves that they are much interested in saving their own skin rather than serving Kannada by correcting the mistakes. I hereby provide details which expose their allegations and statements.

Who has to be blamed for the state of Kannada software
Before blaming the developers one has to think twice about the efforts and people behind the survival of Kannada on computers. Without these passionate developers Kannada on computers would have become an extinct. Some thoughtless developers might have followed some dirty tricks to recover the cost of development and maintenance. But it is not fair to blame the developers enemas for the whole mess. The fundamental flaw is lack of any international standards for Indian Languages to facilitate usage of Indian languages on the shrink wrapped products of international version. No International software developer would include any language unless there is an international standard. In the absence of any international standards, restriction due to copyright and to respect the developer’s IPR, the developers are forced to adopt their own proprietary encoding. When the international software giants left the Indian Languages for lack of standards and revenue, it is these local passionate developers who made all these developments possible.

It was due to the failure of Govt to realize the data portability problems and regularize by recommending a standard. Govt took (sixteen) years to announce a mono-lingual standard after introduction of computers in its administration. Even now Govt is not swiftly acting to regularize the non-standard encoding adopted in Nudi. Even after the data portable issues due to non-standard encoding has been informed to Govt, instead of rectifying the issue, it has implemented further computerization projects using non-standard encoding. After having done much damage to Kannada software development, now KGP blames the passionate Kannada software developers to escape from the clutches of those souls inherited with lust for technology for Kannada. KGP has spoiled the Kannada software development by misusing the Govt machinery and by trapping them with a non-standard encoding. When the Kannada software developers have switched over from their proprietary encoding to Govt standard, KGP has cunningly trapped the users with their non-standard encoding. While they have adopted the proprietary coding in the absence of any standard, KGP has adopted the same against the Govt standards.

What is the sponsorship share of KDA
KGP is refuting the allegations of funding by GoK by suppressing inner details. GoK through its Department of Information Technology has sanctioned funds to the tune of Rs.31,11,000.00 vide its two orders G.O No ªÀiÁvÀAE 23 CqÀ« 2001, ¨ÉAUÀ¼ÀÆgÀÄ ¢£ÁAPÀ 31.1.2001 and G.O No ªÀiÁvÀAE 234 CqÀ« 2001, ¨ÉAUÀ¼ÀÆgÀÄ ¢£ÁAPÀ 27.12.2001. Further, KGP has acknowledged KDA (Kannada Development Authority) and (Directorate of Information Technology) for having sponsored the development of Nudi. Can KGP give details on this sponsorship. How much funding it has received from KDA and DIT.

Why KGP has not received the total money?
KGP is intentionally misleading the public by partially mentioning the funds it has received from the Govt. KGP is hiding the details on the G.O through which GoK has sanctioned funds. The audited balance sheet of KGP for the year 2001-02 shows that it has received funds amounting to Rs.12,36,040.00 from GoK. This is in excess of Rs.3,90,040.00 to what they claimed through newspapers. On the one hand they give wrong financial details and on the other hand they challenge to prove the funding. Why don’t they clarify that as to why they received only Rs.8,46,000.00 from GoK against Rs.31,11,000.00?

Some of the Glaring audited financial details of KGP
Rent paid by KGP for the financial year 2001-02 is Rs. 30,150.00 against the previous year rent of Rs. 3,700.00. Can KGP clarify for the abrupt increase in the rent paid. Another glaring money spent is on the honorarium for the year 2001-02 is Rs.3,52,500.00 against the previous year honorarium of Nil. Can KGP give full details as to whom the honorarium was paid and how much paid to each individual?

Why certification for Kannada software is cancelled
As KGP claims that a decision was taken to cancel certification of Kannada software at a meeting held by KDA, can KDA disclose the details and clarify the current status.
As per the existing Notification of the Govt of Karnataka, Kannada softwares are required to be certified by KGP. This practice has been rigidly followed by APPLESOFT and submitted its Kannada software to DIT and demonstrated to KGP for certification by KGP. Though, as per written guidelines to KGP by DIT, the Kannada softwares are required to be evaluated and certified based on the compliance of the guidelines. KGP is to issue evaluation report and certificate to the concerned organisations submitting the softwares. However, while evaluation report has been issued to us, no certificate has been issued to us by KGP so far with singular objective to block our software.

While we are quite unaware of any decision taken at any level, the clause “hereafter there is no need for certification” as brought out in the Press report of KGP, raises the following issues which need to be elucidated.

1. Does it mean that Kannada softwares subjected for certification need not go for such certification by KGP or no certification by any other authority. If so, the GO reference and effective date of such notification is needed for our compliance.

2. When the orders were issued for obtaining certification from KGP, the user departments and concerned software developers/vendors were informed for compliance. However, while the change in ruling as above has taken place, we have not been appraised of the changed procedure.

Typewriter and Uniform keyboard
KGP is blaming Mr. Poornachandra Thejaswi for having rejected the use of Nudi on learning that it doesn’t provide facility to type Kannada based on the typing method followed on the manual typewriter. It is not only Mr Thejaswi who has rejected Nudi based on the fact that it has not got the typing method based on the manual typewriter but also many other typist turned computer users have rejected Nudi on the same ground. If Nudi was not forced on the end users of Govt departments, it would have been a total rejection.

It is a failure of GoK in not taking steps to protect its student community who learn Kannada typing aspiring for the posts of typists/stenographers based on the rules for selection of typists and stenographers which stipulates Manual typewriter qualification as mandatory. On the one hand it forces an unscientific typing method as standard and on the other hand it continued to train students on the manual typewriter. By forcibly introducing Nudi, GoK has not only killed the development of Kannada software but also made mockery of commercial practice diploma course conducted by department of technical education. The non-availability of typewriter based typing method due to non-availability of software will also render thousands of typists jobless.

Kannada software development is not a profitable business
Dr. Panditha is trying to mislead the public by saying that the Kannada software developers are making profit of crores of rupees. Can he prove his statement and provide breakup details on the turnover related to Kannada software. In reality, the IT companies which make profit of crores of rupees don’t develop any Kannada software. This fact is also known to Dr. Panditha, knowingly he is not only trying to malign Mr Poorchandra thejaswi but also mislead the public. It is a fact that companies like TCS and DCM developed language software but wound up their language software development activity due to its non-revenue generation. The monopoly of KGP has already reduced the Kannada software developers to three. Some of the Kannada software developers who are not shortlisted for Kannada software by GoK are : Modular Infotech, Sonata, Microsense, Starbees, Summit, Bluecell technologies, Softek, Lastech computers etc. If the same situation continues there will not be anybody to develop any newer Kannada software.

KGP has failed in developing the required Kannada softwares
The G.O clearly states that the sum of Rs. 27.65 lakhs would be paid @ Rs.5 lakhs in 5 installments and the remaining in one installment of 2.65 lakhs based on the progress of development made by KGP. When the GoK has issued orders to release funds based on the progress made by KGP, why it should stop with just one installment of Rs.5 lakhs. If the GoK has released only the first installment, it amounts to prove that KGP has not made any progress on the development of funded softwares. Is it not proving that KGP has already failed in developing Kannada software

Kannada software development proposal were submitted by KGP
Dr. Panditha is spreading wrong information on the list of software funded by GoK. As per the preamble to G.O G.O No ªÀiÁvÀAE 234 CqÀ« 2001, ¨ÉAUÀ¼ÀÆgÀÄ ¢£ÁAPÀ 27.12.2001, it is clear that KGP has prepared and submitted a proposal for 22 items, which was analysed and considered for funding by GoK.

Out of the 16 items for which funds were allotted for development, one item is StarOffice. Now Dr.Panditha says they have developed OpenOffice. What is the contribution of KGP in the development of OpenOffice? How do they justify their rate of rupees five lakhs for such works? Is it not a breach of contract to develop different product in place of the product for which contract was awarded.

The press release from KGP says that they are in the process of developing OpenOffice and planning to release shortly. Dr. Panditha’s statement contradicts KGP by saying KGP has developed OpenOffice and it saved lot of money to Govt. Can he provide the usability study made on OpenOffice? can he give details on its installation base? Can he provide any details on how OpenOffice is going to replace MS Office?

KGP is a defunct society
Eventhough KGP claims it to be a registered body, by not maintaining its accounts and not filing its returns with RoS, KGP has become a defunct society. On learning that the illegal sanctioning of funds by GoK is entering into legal disputes, KGP got audited its first three consecutive financial years accounts in one shot. Where the public can view the accounts. Is it in the office of KGP? As per the records of ROS, KGP has not maintained any records. It proves the extent of correctness of his arguments.

Why KGP has not developed any converter to convert data created using other Kannada software
Inspite of the nature of Govt funded development of Nudi and the stipulated guidelines it is mandatory to provide a converter to convert the data created using the existing software, Why KGP has not provided any converter to convert the data created by the existing software.

While claiming that KGP has developed conversion utilities to convert data created using other Kannada software, why it has not distributed to any body. Why it is being guarded as secret. What has prompted and why it is depriving the users of other Kannada software.

Can KGP provide the details on the file types that its converter can handle? Does its converter handles formatted documents? Does it handle documents created using Ventura, Corel Draw, Pagemaker, Quark Express, MS Word, MS Excel, MS Powerpoint, MS Access, Lotus Smart suite etc,. The claim to have developed converter will simply mislead the end users.

Kannada software developers have adopted the Govt standard
Dr. Panditha is deliberately making attempts to coverup the issues in half baked manner by arguing against the press statements of KGP. KGP has admitted that it has certified a few Kannada software for its conformity to the standards of GoK and also the list of shortlisted vendors for Kannada software proves that Dr.Panditha’s argument is false.

The admittance of KGP to have certified a few Kannada software and the list of shortlisted vendors for Kannada software by GoK proves that the shortlisted vendors like APPLESOFT has developed its software as per the standards of GoK. The reports issued to the Kannada software developers on the software submitted to it for certification confirms that the developers like APPLESOFT has provided conversion utilities to convert the data created using older version to the standard. Even after having issued a report, the charge on the developers that the developers have not given conversion utility to convert the old data only proves the quality of his allegation. As a Kannada software developer who was approved by the GoK continuously, we demand public apology from Dr. Panditha for having made such maligning propaganda against the Kannada software developer like us.

The fact is that KGP has introduced the non-standard proprietary encoding into its Nudi software to monopolies the Kannada software requirement. By having violated the Govt standards and monopolized the Kannada software development, KGP has virtually killed Kannada software development.

If the problems related to Unicode for Kannada is not yet resolved, Why Nudi supports Unicode only on MS Windows XP?
If the unresolved problems still continues with Unicode, in the first place why did KGP has provided facility to type in Unicode on MS Windows XP. If the intention is to support Unicode, then why it didn’t provide the same facility for MS Windows 98 which is having more user base than the new MS Windows XP. The explanation provided by Dr.Panditha that Unicode facility will be provided on MS Windows 98 when the problem is resolved will not serve the tech savvy users.

What is a model software?
Nudi is being called as a model software, testing software to test the Kannada software developed by shortlisted vendors, developed as per the requirement of Govt standard and full-fledged software by various concerned people and KGP. If it is considered as a model software, it implies that it doesn’t have any functionality. How one can develop any application with Nudi which is not having any functionality. If it is considered as testing software, this software is not testing any key sequences while typing Kannada in the Kannada software developed by any of the shortlisted vendors. If it is considered as a software developed as per the Govt standard, it has violated the Govt standard by introducing bi-lingual fonts and not fulfilling the requirement of conversion utility to convert the Kannada data created using the existing Kannada software and also tantamount to violating Govt standards. If it is considered as full-fledged software, what is the specification for such software. Nudi lacks its identity and has become ghost to threaten the Kannada development on computers.

No vendor has opposed free use of not only Nudi but any Kannada software
No vendor has filed any complaint with Lokayuktha regarding its free usage. But has filed complaint with Lokayuktha only to question the Monopoly of Nudi and KGP, misuse of official machinery, Misuse of funds, Procedural lapses in funding KGP. Can KGP prove as to who has filed complaint with Lokayktha to stop the free usage of Nudi. KGP is attempting to create an impression that the attempt of the vendors to stop Nudi is already rejected by Lokayuktha and also tries to create bad impression about the developers who had upheld the use of Kannada and nourished on computers.

False propaganda against Kannada software developers
An active member of KGP attempts to mesmerize the readers by saying that certain Kannada software developers are making false statements though the mass media against KGP because they had suffered losses by loosing business with Govt departments. It is some what like kicking down the ladder after climbing and reaching the requisite height. It tantamounts that become of monopoly of uncertified NUDI software and at the convenience of the parties concerned in this foul game, that they admit for their ill deeds and their hidden agenda of promoting NUDI. If active member of KGP or anyone on his behalf believes that false statements are being made, let them attempt to prove it else it means they are fully in agreement for their misdeeds.

Brand building by KGP
Nudi is being distributed as FREEWARE with every rights lying with KGP. But publicly it claims that Nudi is a property of GoK. Doesn’t it proves that GoK has been cheated? if not, does not it mean that the act of GoK proves that it is promoting KGP to achieve monopoly of Kannada software development. If GoK owns the copyright, why it should hesitate to announce it in Open source. In reality KGP has released Nudi as freeware to promote its brand name to encash it on attaining monopoly.

Kannada software developers
It is often claimed by KGP that many organizations are developing Kannada software. Why it has not provided any list of such developers. Why GoK has not shortlisted such developers for Kannada software development.

Monkey business
The executive members of KGP who thought of self acclaiming and becoming recognized saviours of Kannada by duping GoK in the pretension of serving Kannada, have tried their fingers on Kannada software. A common person who is aware of the state of technology for Kannada a decade ago and its present state, can understand the achievement. It is because of those passionate Software developers who worked relentlessly. If KGP thinks of achieving all these developments over night or in such a short period, then it is not by their physical work, may be by mesmerism or magic. As Bhagwan Buddha once said that whatever is offered or given to any one – it reaches the receiver, if he deserves it. Otherwise it goes back to the giver. Like wise, the un-deserved comparison or allegations of KGP on software developers will ultimately go back to them only as the software developers don’t deserve it. The activities of KGP in Kannada software has now proved to be a monkey business.

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August 21, 2006 Posted by | Anbarsan on NUDI, KAGAPA and KGP | 1 Comment

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