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Kannada declared classical language [kannadigas need to read what is written]

Kannada declared classical language

started by amar shildi 1 year ago http://forums.sulekha.com/forums/coffeehouse/Kannada-declared-classical-language.htm

his will only tarnish the very meaning of the word “CLASSICAL” and will do irrepairable damage to TRUE classcial languages like TAMIL, GREEK, ARABIC etc.Puliyai paarthu poonai soodu pottukondathu

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(A cat tries to get the status of a tiger by jumping into the fire, hoping it will get the fiery stripes of its rival!)

The situation of Kannada fighting for classical status quoting Tamil is best explained by the above Tamil proverb!

To get classical status, Tamil scholars and poets had to fight for over 40 years with the Indian government, which was only interested in Sanskrit and Hindi for obvious reasons. The Govt. even declared a whole year as Sanskrit year, though Sanskrit is only spoken by about 500 people in the whole country (incidentally it is spoken only in Karnataka, it tells me clearly that one of Kannada’s parents is Sanskrit) but despised Tamil.

It is not enough if a language is 1000 years old it becomes classical. It also should have quality and originality. For example, even though I am not a linguist, I know that only Tamil has the letter “zha” and hundreds of words using that letter. (Malayalam uses that letter but it is only a daughter of Tamizh)

In poetry the beginning words rhyme, the ending words also in some cases. We should be proud that Tamizh is the only language in the world which has such type of rhyming scheme. It is a shame that ONLY after a foreigner, Dr.George Hart made it clear that of the modern, living Indian languages, Tamizh and Tamizh only can claim classical status, that Indian Government announced that it is classical.

Now the Kannadigas’ pride has been badly hurt, and although many of them were earlier telling that a living language can never be classical, now they say the Kannada should be made classical. This is hypocrisy.

They try to invent new conditions like Sahitya awards etc to “make” Kannada classical!

Kannada can in no way stand before Tamil. Even with the existing literature, Tamil literature surpasses Kannada in quantity and quality. We do know that thousands of other Tamil literary works have been destroyed by nature, and others in the form of olaichuvadi is being destroyed by insects and cockroaches, thanks to the lack of funds by Indian government, because funds are used to preserve Hindi and Sanskrit! Kannada no doubt is sweet and rich, but it can in no way compare with Tamil.

If Kannada is compared to the Moon, it derives its greatness only from Tamil, the Sun.

I happen to read arguments posed by some Kannada scholars in the site “totalkannada.com” and couldn’t stop laughing. One of them argues that “Palli” is a Kannada word. It is a know fact that Kannada derives many of its words from Tamil by replacing “pa” with “ha”. Hence palli is halli, peyar, is hesaru, pugai is hogai, paal is haal.

Even now we let only foreign countries approve our achievements.

The following article by a U.S. linguist will drive home the point to all Indians that TAMIL and

TAMIL alone can be the living Indian classical language. (There are only 5 other such classical languages. Even Arabic is younger than Tamil. When it is declared classical, why not her elder sister?.. Tamil) Click below or cut and paste in your browser… Kannadigas who want classical stauts for Kannada, especially!

http://tamil.berkeley.edu/Tamil%20Chair/TamilClassicalLanguage/TamilClassicalLgeLtr.html

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nrupatunga posted Re: Kannada declared classical language on 12 mnths ago :This will only tarnish the very meaning of the word “CLASSICAL” and will do irrepairable damage to TRUE classcial languages like TAMIL, GREEK, ARABIC etc.: Puliyai paarthu poonai soodu pottukondathu

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: (A cat tries to get the status of a tiger by jumping into the fire, hoping it will get the fiery stripes of its rival!)

: The situation of Kannada fighting for classical status quoting Tamil is best explained by the above Tamil proverb!

: To get classical status, Tamil scholars and poets had to fight for over 40 years with the Indian government, which was only interested in Sanskrit and Hindi for obvious reasons. The Govt. even declared a whole year as Sanskrit year, though Sanskrit is only spoken by about 500 people in the whole country (incidentally it is spoken only in Karnataka, it tells me clearly that one of Kannada’s parents is Sanskrit) but despised Tamil.

: It is not enough if a language is 1000 years old it becomes classical. It also should have quality and originality. For example, even though I am not a linguist, I know that only Tamil has the letter “zha” and hundreds of words using that letter. (Malayalam uses that letter but it is only a daughter of Tamizh)

: In poetry the beginning words rhyme, the ending words also in some cases. We should be proud that Tamizh is the only language in the world which has such type of rhyming scheme. It is a shame that ONLY after a foreigner, Dr.George Hart made it clear that of the modern, living Indian languages, Tamizh and Tamizh only can claim classical status, that Indian Government announced that it is classical.

: Now the Kannadigas’ pride has been badly hurt, and although many of them were earlier telling that a living language can never be classical, now they say the Kannada should be made classical. This is hypocrisy.

: They try to invent new conditions like Sahitya awards etc to “make” Kannada classical!

: Kannada can in no way stand before Tamil. Even with the existing literature, Tamil literature surpasses Kannada in quantity and quality. We do know that thousands of other Tamil literary works have been destroyed by nature, and others in the form of olaichuvadi is being destroyed by insects and cockroaches, thanks to the lack of funds by Indian government, because funds are used to preserve Hindi and Sanskrit! Kannada no doubt is sweet and rich, but it can in no way compare with Tamil.

: If Kannada is compared to the Moon, it derives its greatness only from Tamil, the Sun.

: I happen to read arguments posed by some Kannada scholars in the site “totalkannada.com” and couldn’t stop laughing. One of them argues that “Palli” is a Kannada word. It is a know fact that Kannada derives many of its words from Tamil by replacing “pa” with “ha”. Hence palli is halli, peyar, is hesaru, pugai is hogai, paal is haal.

:

: Even now we let only foreign countries approve our achievements.

: The following article by a U.S. linguist will drive home the point to all Indians that TAMIL and

: TAMIL alone can be the living Indian classical language. (There are only 5 other such classical languages. Even Arabic is younger than Tamil. When it is declared classical, why not her elder sister?.. Tamil) Click below or cut and paste in your browser… Kannadigas who want classical stauts for Kannada, especially!

: http://tamil.berkeley.edu/Tamil%20Chair/TamilClassicalLanguage/TamilClassicalLgeLtr.html

November 9, 2007 Posted by | Classical status to Kannada | 54 Comments

Classical language status to Kannada sought

Classical language status to Kannada sought

February 07, 2006 18:21 IST

Karnataka Chief Minister H D Kumaraswamy on Tuesday said he would soon lead a delegation to Delhi to meet Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to press for according classical language status for Kannada.

Addressing writers and intellectuals at a meeting convened by him in Bangalore to seek their guidance on the programmes the state has to draw up to celebrate the golden jubilee of the state’s formation, he said the new government would continue efforts to get classical language status for Kannada.

Kumaraswamy hailed the initiatives made in this regard by the previous government headed by Dharam Singh. He said the government had already released Rs 10 crore for preparations for the celebrations and assured that suggestions, which emanated from this meeting, will be incorporated while taking decisions.

The government has plans to organise cultural shows in and around Vidhana Soudha every Sunday to encourage folk art and other forms of arts, which were on the verge of extinction.

Kumaraswamy directed the Director General of Police B S Siyal that while ensuring safety of landmark buildings like Vidhana Soudha, Vikas Soudha and High Court, there should not be many restrictions on movement of people.

The chief minister, who is also a film producer and distributor, promised to convene a meeting of film industry representatives to discuss the industry problems.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/07ktaka.htm

November 9, 2007 Posted by | Classical status to Kannada | Leave a comment

Press demand for according classical status to Kannada

Press demand for according classical status to Kannada
Press demand for according classical status to Kannada

According to the Tamil scholar Iravata Mahadevan, influence of Kannada can be found in the Tamil inscriptions of 200 BC to 100 BC.

The words “Ghata sapta shahi” were found in a Greek drama written in 200 AD. A full-bodied Kannada text is found in the Halmidi Inscription of 450 AD. Over 30,000 Kannada inscriptions found were dated after that period.

“Though `Kavirajamarga’, dated 900 AD, was the first book, several samples of Kannada prose and poetry that were older were available. Pampa, the great poet, began a new literary tradition by writing his works in `Champu’ style,” he said.

http://community.livejournal.com/kannada/12605.html

November 9, 2007 Posted by | Classical status to Kannada | Leave a comment

Centre urged to accord classical status for Kannada

Centre urged to accord classical status for Kannada

Staff Reporter

 http://www.hindu.com/2006/11/27/stories/2006112716970400.htm

 


  • Seminars on formation of Karnataka to be held in schools
  • Centre urged to implement Sarojini Mahishi report

     

    BANGALORE: Former Mayor G. Narayan on Sunday blamed the elected representatives from the State for the delay in obtaining “classical status” for Kannada.

    Mela

    Speaking after inaugurating “Kannada Samskriti Mela” organised here by Kannada Anusthana Mandali, Mr. Narayan said, “It is unfortunate that Kannada has not been accorded the status of classical language even though it has a history of thousands of years. This is because our elected representatives did not provide relevant documents and information to the Centre. It is because of their negligence Kannada is yet to be recognised for the status.”

    Urging the Centre to recognise Kannada as a classical language at the earliest, the former Mayor regretted that many Kannadigas were not getting jobs in their own State. “People from other States come and settle in Karnataka. Instead of teaching them Kannada, we Kannadigas learn their language. This is unfortunate,” he said.

    Stating that it was because of this Bangalore was known as a cosmopolitan city, Mr. Narayan said the day was not far when Karnataka would turn into a cosmopolitan State.

    Chief Executive Officer of the Bangalore Urban Zilla Panchayat C. Somashekar said that he had directed the subject inspectors of all government schools in Bangalore Urban district to organise seminars and discussions on the formation of Karnataka. “This is to mark the Suvarna Karnataka celebrations,” he added.

  • November 9, 2007 Posted by | Classical status to Kannada | Leave a comment

    Citizen Tipu And Saffronazis

    Citizen Tipu And Saffronazis

    By Subhash Gatade

    23 September, 2006
    Countercurrents.org


    Ghatam Bhindyat, Patam Chhindyat, Kuryat Rasbharohanam
    Yenken Prakaren, Prasidho Purusho Bhavet

    ( Break Earthen Pots, Tear Clothes, Ride on a Donkey
    Men try to achieve popularity by any means)

    - Sanskrit couplet

    Who is D. H. Shankarmurthy ?

    It is a fact that till the other day the rest of the country hardly knew the name of this man. But today everybody is talking about this minister for Higher Education in the JD(S) and BJP coalition government in Karnataka.

    It remains to be seen whether his aim to achieve popularity by any means has been inspired by the above mentioned Sanskrit Sholka(couplet). But looking at the fact that he has been a member of the Sangh Parivar for quite sometime, where years of attending Shakhas and listening to endless Baudhikas on the repeated theme of the ‘other’, severly impacts one’s critical faculties, it does not seem to be the case.

    Definitely if it would have concerned some minor affair in the history of Karnataka then the news would have hardly reached outside. But that is not the case.Rather it would be more opportune to say that Murthy’s attempt to recast the Karnataka history books in the Sangh Parivar’s mould and especially his move to obliterate the great Tipu Sultan’s name from the pages of Kannada history that has angered a broad cross-section of people cutting across party lines.

    Under the false pretext that Tipu did not give due importance to the Kannada language and rather promoted Persian language Shankaramurthy has asserted that Tipu Sultan should not be glorified. ‘Most of the history text books in the country depict Tipu Sultan, Akbar, Aurangazeb Alexander and others as patriots but the real ones are never brought to light,’ observed Murthy.For him the alleged neglect of Kannada language by Tipu Sultan is reason enough that the great warrior of all times who even sacrificed his children to end colonial rule be obliterated from Karnataka’s history.

    For him it hardly matters that Tipu Sultan was a ruler who was much ahead of his times, who was apostle of Hindu-Muslim unity, who was fond of new inventions, who is called innovator of the world’s first war rocket, who felt inspired by the French Revolution and despite being a ruler called himself Citizen and even planted the tree of ‘Liberty’ in his palace.

    For Murthy it is a minor matter that Tipu sensed the designs of the British and tried to forge broader unity with the domestic rulers and even tried to connect with French and the Turks and the Afghans to give a fitting reply to the hegemonic designs of the British. Perhaps the Sangh Swayamsevak which is lurking inside the minister for higher education does not want the future generations to even know that Tipu defeated the British army twice with his superior planning and better techniques and who died in the battlefield itself fighting the Britishers again with his sword in his hand.

    Ofcourse the move to obliterate the name of the warrior whose martyrdom fighting the Britishers preceded the historic revolt of the 1857 by around 50 years does not appear surprising as far as the whole trajectory of the RSS is concerned. The eighty plus year old history of the ‘cultural organisation’ is replete with facts which show how they have discovered cowardice as a virtue. Thousands of pages have been written about the way they kept themselves aloof from the historic anti-colonial struggle of the Indian people under the excuse that they want to unify the Hindus. Enough has been written on the way they tried to break the wider anti-colonial unity by pitting Hindus against Muslims. Perhaps it is high time to emphasise the fact the ideologues of the Hindutva brigade were ‘pioneers’ as far as claiming that Hindus and Muslims were two nations.

    The pretext of anti-Kannada bias in Tipu Sultan runs hollow when one knows that the Archeaological Department of Mysore State is in possession of over thirty letters by Tipu to the Shankaracharya of Shringeri Math. These letters are written in the Kannada characters.

    It is now history how the colonials distorted our history to suit their imperial interests. One very well knows they called our uprisings as mutinies, our heroes as villains, and our freedom fighters as usurpers and terrorists. The move to obliterate Tipu’s name from the pages of Kannada history is another vindication that Sangh Parivar has taken it upon themselves the task left unfinished by the colonialists.

    Subhassh Gatade can be reached at subhash.gatade@gmail.com

    http://www.countercurrents.org/comm-gatade230906.htm

    November 9, 2007 Posted by | KANNADA | Leave a comment

    Classical Status to Kannada

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    `Press demand for according classical status to Kannada’

    Staff Reporter

    The language is over 2,000 years old: scholar

     

     

     

     http://www.hindu.com/2006/04/17/stories/2006041707890400.htm

    Bangalore: Kannada and Tamil are just as old as each other, a fact several scholars and researchers have vouched for, said M. Chidananda Murthy, litterateur.

    Delivering the R.H. Deshpande Memorial Endowment Lecture on “Need to accord classical language status for Kannada” here on Sunday, Dr. Chidananda Murthy said that the third report on the history of Kannada was complete and would be sent to the Union Government soon.

    “The report has substantial evidence on the history of Kannada. It also contains extracts from records of yesteryear. The views of scholars and researchers of various universities have also been incorporated in the 280-page report,” he said.

    Dr. Chidananda Murthy said that during October 2004, the Union Government accorded classical language status to Tamil.

    History

    It also said that a language should be at least 1,000 years old to be eligible for the status, needed to have its own traditions and be unique.

    However, in January 2005, the Government said that to get the classical language status, a language should be 1,500 years old. “Sanskrit was then given the classical language tag,” he said.

    The Government had so far submitted two appeals, urging the Centre to accord classical language status to Kannada. D.L. Narasimhachar found the word “Isila” in Ashoka’s Brahmagiri inscription that is dated 300 BC, he said. The word “Karnataka” is found in the Sanskrit Mahabharata, he claimed.

    According to the Tamil scholar Iravata Mahadevan, influence of Kannada can be found in the Tamil inscriptions of 200 BC to 100 BC.

    The words “Ghata sapta shahi” were found in a Greek drama written in 200 AD. A full-bodied Kannada text is found in the Halmidi Inscription of 450 AD. Over 30,000 Kannada inscriptions found were dated after that period.

    “Though `Kavirajamarga’, dated 900 AD, was the first book, several samples of Kannada prose and poetry that were older were available. Pampa, the great poet, began a new literary tradition by writing his works in `Champu’ style,” he said.

    Influence

    Dr. Chidananda Murthy said that there was no sign of influence of any other language in the Vachana Sahitya, either in terms of the language, the meter or the theme. The same was the case with Haridasa Sahitya.

    “Though there is difference between Hale Kannada and the language of today, it has been proven that Kannada is over 2,000 years old,” he said.

    He said that if the Union Government gave Kannada the classical language status, two Kannada scholars would be eligible for international awards.

    A centre for excellence and departments in various universities would be set up for research.

    “There has been an effort to set up a department for Tamil in the University of Mysore, after the language was accorded classical language status,” Dr. Chidananda Murthy said.

    Dr. Chidananda Murthy said the State Government had to urge the Union Government to accord classical language status to Kannada without delay.

    Suryanath Kamat, president of Karnataka Itihasa Academy, and K.S. Deshpande, grandson of R.H. Deshpande, spoke.

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    November 9, 2007 Posted by | Classical status to Kannada | Leave a comment

    ಮುಗ್ಧಯೋಗಿ


    “ನೆಲಗುದ್ದಿ ಬೆವರಿಳಿಸಿ ತನ್ನ ಪಾಲಿನ ಗದ್ದೆ-
    ಯುತ್ತು ಓರಣಮಾಡಿ, ಲಾಂಟಾನ ಪೊದೆಕಿತ್ತು,
    ಉಪ್ಪೆಮೆಳೆ ಪಾಪಾಸು ಕಾರೆ ಕುಂಟಿಯ ಸವರಿ,
    ತರಿದು ಈಚಲು, ಬೊಡ್ಡೆ ಸುಟ್ಟು, ನಾಟಿಯ ಮುಗಿಸಿ
    ಮೋಡಗಳ ಜೋಡಿ ಮಾತಾಡಿ ಒಣಗು ನೆಲಕ್ಕೆ
    ನಾನು ಹನಿಗಳ ಬೇಡಿ ದೈನಾಸ ಪಟ್ಟವರೇ…
    ಗುಡಿಗೋಪುರದೆ ಮುಂದೆ ಕಣ್ಮುಚ್ಚಿ ನಿಲ್ಲದೆಯೆ
    ಎಲ್ಲೊ ಅಳುತ್ತಿದೆ ಮಗು ಎಂದು ತಲ್ಲಣಿಸುತ್ತ
    ನಟ್ಟಿರುಳಿನಲ್ಲಿ ಚೋಟುದ್ದ ಬ್ಯಾಟದಿ ಹಿಡಿದು
    ಚಂದ್ರದಾಡೆಯ ಇರುಳ ಗಂಟುಮೋರೆಗೆ ವೃಥಾ
    ಬೆಳಕ ದೊಣ್ಣೆಯ ತಿವಿದು ತಿವಿದು ಅಳಲಿನ ಸ್ವರಕ್ಕೆ
    ಕಿವಿಯೊಡ್ಡಿ ಮುನ್ನಡೆವ ಮುಗ್ಧಯೋಗಿ…

    ನಮ್ಮ ದಾರಿಗೆ ಇರಲಿ ನಿಮ್ಮ ಟಾರ್ಚಿನ ಬೆಳಕು
    ಸರಿರಾತ್ರಿಗಿರುವಂತೆ ಚಂದ್ರಗಿಂಡಿಯ ತುಳುಕು !”

    -ಎಚ್ ಎಸ್ ವೆಂಕಟೇಶ ಮೂರ್ತಿ

    November 8, 2007 Posted by | EKAVI Group | Leave a comment

    ದಿಕ್ಕು ಕೆಡಿಸುವ ಮೂಡನಂಬಿಕೆಗಳು

              ಸದಾ ಕ್ರಿಯಾಶೀಲರಾಗಿರಲು ರೋಗ ನಿರೋಧಕ ಶಕ್ತಿಗಳಿಸಿಕೊಂಡು ದೈನಂದಿನ ಕಾರ್ಯದಲ್ಲಿ ತಮ್ಮನ್ನು ತೊಡಗಿಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳಬೇಕಾದರೆ, ಪೌಷ್ಟಿಕ ಆಹಾರದ ಅವಶ್ಯಕತೆ ಇದೆ. ಅದೇ ರೀತಿ ಮನಸ್ಸು ಲವಲವಿಕೆಯಿಂದಿರಲು ಒಳ್ಳೆಯ ಚಿಂತನೆ, ವಿಚಾರದ ಜತೆಗೆ ಸಮಯವನ್ನು ಸದುಪಯೋಗಪಡಿಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳುವ ವಿವೇಕವೂ ಇರಬೇಕು. ಮಾನವನ ಆಯಸ್ಸು ಸರಾಸರಿ 60 ವರ್ಷ ಎಂದಿಟ್ಟುಕೊಳ್ಳೋಣ. ಅಂದರೆ, 365 X 60 = 21900 ದಿನಗಳು. ಇದರಲ್ಲಿ ಅರ್ಧಭಾಗ ನಿದ್ದೆಗೆ, ವಿಶ್ರಾಂತಿಗೆ ಹೋಗುತ್ತದೆ. ಮಿಕ್ಕ ಸಮಯ ಬಾಲ್ಯ, ಯೌವ್ವನ, ಮುಪ್ಪು ಮತ್ತು ರೋಗ ರುಜಿನಗಳಲ್ಲೇ ಕಳೆದುಹೋಗುತ್ತದೆ. ಹಾಗಾದರೆ ಸುಖಕ್ಕೆ ಮೀಸಲಾದ ಕಾಲ ಎಷ್ಟು?

           ಥಾಮರ್ಸ್ ಹಾರ್ಡಿ ಹೇಳಿರುವಂತೆ ಜೀವನದಲ್ಲಿ ಸಾಸುವೆಯಷ್ಟೇ ಸುಖ, ಸಾಗರದಷ್ಟು ದುಃಖ. ಸುಖ ಸಂತೋಷಗಳು ಬೇಗನೆ ಕರಗಿ ದುಃಖಪೂರಿತ ಘಟನೆಗಳು ಮನುಷ್ಯ ಸಾಯುವವರೆಗೂ ಕಾಡುತ್ತವೆ. ‘ನಿಯತಿಕೃತ’ ನಿಯಮ ನಿಷ್ಟವಾಗಿ ಜರುಗುತ್ತಿರುವ ಈ ಪ್ರಪಂಚದ ಹಿಂದೆ ಯಾವುದೋ ಸೂತ್ರಧಾರನ ಶಕ್ತಿ ಇದೆ ಎಂದು ನಾವು ನಂಬುತ್ತೇವೆ. ಹಾಗಾದರೆ, ಈ ಜಗತ್ತಿನಲ್ಲಿ ದುಃಖವೇಕೆ ಹೆಚ್ಚಾಗಿದೆ? ಹೀಗೆ ಪ್ರಶ್ನಿಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳಿ. ಸೃಷ್ಟಿಕರ್ತನೇ ಆಧುನಿಕ ಮಾಂತ್ರಿಕರು ಮತ್ತು ರಾಕ್ಷಸರನ್ನೂ ಸೃಷ್ಟಿ ಮಾಡಿ ಮಾನವನ ಮೇಲೆ ಸೇಡು ತೀರಿಸಿಕೊಳ್ಳುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾನೇನೋ ಎಂಬ ತಳಮಳ ಉಂಟಾಗುತ್ತದೆ. ಉಳಿದ ನಮ್ಮ ಅಮೂಲ್ಯ ಸಮಯವನ್ನು ಮೂಡನಂಬಿಕೆ, ಗೊಡ್ಡು ಸಾಂಪ್ರದಾಯಗಳನ್ನು ಆಚರಿಸುವುದರಲ್ಲಿ, ಗಂಟೆಗಟ್ಟಲೆ ಪೂಜೆ ಮತ್ತು ವ್ರತಗಳನ್ನು ಮಾಡೆ, ಪುರಾಣಗಳನ್ನು ಕೇಳುವುದರಲ್ಲಿ ಸವೆಸುತ್ತೇವೆ. ಆದರೆ ಸರಳ ಆಚರಣೆಗಳು ಮನುಷ್ಯನನ್ನು ವಿಕಾಸಗೊಳಿಸಿ, ಜಟಿಲ ಆಚರಣೆಗಳು ಜಡತ್ವದತ್ತ ಕೊಂಡೊಯ್ಯುತ್ತವೆ.(All in the mind) ಎಂಬ್ ಲೇಖನದಲ್ಲಿ ವಿಲಿಯಂ ಸೆಲೆತಿನ್ ‘ದೇವರ ಪೂಜೆ ಮತ್ತು ಅಧ್ಯಾತ್ಮಿಕತೆಯಿಂದ, ನೈತಿಕತೆ ಬರುವುದಿಲ್ಲ ಎಂದು ಹೇಳಿರುವುದು ಸತ್ಯ.

               ಕಾರಂತರು ‘ಮನುಷ್ಯ ತಾನು ದೊಡ್ಡವನಾಗದೆ, ದೇವರನ್ನು ದೊಡ್ಡವನನ್ನಾಗಿ ಮಾಡಲಾರ’ ಎಂದು ಹೇಳಿರುವುದು ಅಷ್ಟೇ ಸಮಂಜಸ. ಒಂದು ವೇಳೆ ಆಧ್ಯಾತ್ಮಿಕ ಮತ್ತು ದೇವರ ಪೂಜೆಯಿಂದ ನೈತಿಕತೆಯ ಅಧಿಕೃತ ಹಂಚಿಕೆದಾರರಾಗಬೇಕಾಗಿತ್ತು. ಅಲ್ಲವೇ ?

                 ಎಷ್ಟೋ ಜನ ವಾಸ್ತು ನಮ್ಬಿ ಇರುವ ಮನೆಯನ್ನು ಬೀಳಿಸಿ ವಾಸ್ತು ಪ್ರಕಾರ ಕಟ್ಟಿಸಿದರೂ ಏನೂ ಉಪಯೋಗವಾಗಿಲ್ಲ. ಇದರಿಂದ ಲಕ್ಷಾಂತರ ರೂ. ಕಳೆದುಕೊಂಡು ಮಾನಸಿಕ ಕ್ಷೋಭೆ ಮತ್ತು ಖಿನ್ನತೆಗೆ ಒಳಗಾಗಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಮುಪ್ಪರಡುವ ಮುನ್ನವೇ ಮೆದುಳಿಗೆ ಮತ್ತು ದೇಹಕ್ಕೆ ಮುಪ್ಪು ಬರಲು ಕೊಬ್ಬಿನ ಆಹಾರ ಪದ್ದತಿ ಎಷ್ಟು ಕಾರಣವೋ ಅಷ್ಟೇ ಗೊಡ್ಡು ಸಂಪ್ರಾಯಗಳೂ ಕಾರಣವಾಗುತ್ತದೆ. ಅವುಗಳು ಉಪಯೋಗಿಸದೇ ಇದ್ದಲ್ಲಿ ಮನುಷ್ಯ ಚಿಂತೆ, ಕ್ರೋಧ, ಭಯದ  ಶಂಕೆಯಿಂದ ಮಾನಸಿಕ ಖಿನ್ನತೆಗೆ ಒಳಗಾಗಿ ಹಲವಾರು ತೊಂದರೆ ಮತ್ತು ರೋಗಗಳಿಗೆ ತುತ್ತಾಗುತ್ತಾನೆ.

     

     

    November 8, 2007 Posted by | EKAVI Group, EKAVI KOLAR | 1 Comment

    EKAVI KARNATAKA KANNADA Photos Album

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    EKAVI KARNATAKA KANNADA Photos Album
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    November 7, 2007 Posted by | EKAVI Activities | 2 Comments

    No action from GoK for THREE years on KSD-No reply from It and eGovernance Secretary

    Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:07:01 -0700 (PDT)
    From: “VMK” <ellakannada@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Mismatch in e-governance due to incompatible software / Re: Kannada Software Development, GoK, eGovernance, Kannadigas, Karnataka
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    Hon. Governor
    Raj Bhavan
    Raj Bhavan Road
    Bangalore 560 001 INDIA
    Voice: +91-80-2225 4102(General-epbax),
    Special officer Rajbhavan :+91-80-2225 4106,
    Fax: +91-80-2225 8150
    Email: rbblr@vsnl.com

    and

    Shri M.N. Vidyashankar
    Secretary to Government
    Dept.of Information Technology, Biotechnology and Science & Technology
    Government of Karnataka
    VI Floor, 5thStage
    M.S.Building, Ambedkar Veedhi
    Bangalore – 560 001
    Fax: 91-80-22288340, 22262450
    e-mail: itsec@bangaloreit.in
    biosec@bangaloreit.in

    PLEASE go through these emails written in 2004 about KANNADA LANGUAGE and KANNADA Software Development.

    In a message dated 6/15/2004 10:24:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, prsar-dpar@karnataka.gov.in writes:

    Dear Mr. Kumaraswamy,

    Thank you for your detailed description of the problems being faced in the operation of NUDI and the use of Kannada software to carry on work by the Government. i must confess to great ignorance of software technologies and preparation. However, your communication is a good trarting point for some study into the items you have raised. i shall ask the Secretary E-Governance to examine as to what needs to be done on the points you have raised. i am marking a copy of this reply to him which should help you to be in touch with the source that should be in a position to follow what you have pointed out.

    Regards,

    acharya

    ___________________________

    SINCE 2004, GoK has not made any attempt to correct the problems of Kannada Software Development, even with 1000 letters to GoK.

    BARAHA Fonts has DESTROYED the KANNADA SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT in KARNATAKA STATE.

    BARAHA FONTS is COPIED by NUDI Fonts by Kannada Ganaka Parishat and then KGP sold it to Govt. of Karnataka for 29 Lakhs.

    Is this what we want ? Be TRUTHFUL in telling KANNADIGAS.

    Bring this to open first !!!

    GoK using STOLEN NUDI fonts !!

     Atleast read what Dr. U. B.  PAVANAJA has written about BARAHA, NUDi and AKRUTHI Fonts.

    Kannada Fonts Piracy

    http://ellakavi.wordpress.com/kannada-fonts-piracy/

    _____________________________________________________________

    Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:06:36 -0700 (PDT)
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    Subject: Re: Mismatch in e-governance due to incompatible software / Re: Kannada Software Development, GoK, eGovernance, Kannadigas, Karnataka
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    Dear Mr. ACHARYA and others in GOK,

    ACCORDING TO KRIA, Karnataka Right to Information Act, You all need to respond in certain number of days to email letters.

    I hope GOK Secretaries are following this KRIA act properly and respond to letters of citizens of Karnataka State.

    Press and MEDIA in Bangalore and Karnataka State need to act on this and expose what is happenning.

    KANNADIGAS expect an answer from you all.

    Thanks

    Sincerely

    V. M. Kumaraswamy

    indiaegov OK <indiaegovok@yahoo.com> wrote:

    Dear Mr. Acharya,

    I had written to you On June 13th, 2004 about INCOMPATIBLE KANNADA SOFTWARE being used in GoK. You had promptly responded to me on June 15th, 2004. Both the copies of the emails are appended here for you and all in the email to read. You had written that you have referred this issue to Secretary of egovernance of GoK.

    What did he do? NOTHING. egovSec went to make his deals with NISG, CMS / RAMINFO TECH and adopting CAG slammed project eSeva for Bangalore One Project. WHAT A WAY TO HANDLE THINGS FOR GOK !!

    NISG has to take most of the blame for all the things that are happenning in eGov of INDIA.

    This eGov Sec of GoK does not have regard for KANNADA Language. He is interested in deals to be made as quickly as possible. He does not know how long he is going to stay as eGov Sec ofGOK !! MAKE HAY WHILE THE SUNSHINES !!!

    WHAT HAS HAPPENED NOW NOTHING ? Please read the following and also rely from CM of Karnataka State.

    Now GOK Secretaries EXPERTS COMMITTEE and EMPOWERED COMMITTEE of GOK gone ahead with BANGALORE ONE Project also which in itself is a FRAUD ON PEOPLE OF BANAGLORE CITY and KARNATAKA STATE. Please go through this URL. It might save lots of time for lots of peopel in Karnataka State.

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    THE HINDU

    18-4-05

     

    Many depts yet to complete e-governance projects

                                       Software mismatch makes communication impossible

     

    Nagesh Prabhu

    • Sixty-two departments have taken up e-governance projects at a cost of Rs. 179.93 crores.
    • Only 17 departments have completed their projects. Projects are in initial stage in 10 departments.
    • Each department opted for its own brand of software that is not compatible with that in other offices.

     

    Bangalore : E-governance and computerization are yet to be completed in many government departments and agencies despite spending huge sums of money on them in the past five years and concomitant publicity.

     

    Sixty-two government departments have taken up e-governance projects since 1995-96 at a cost of Rs. 179.93 crores for achieving the goals of efficiency, transparency and citizen-friendly interface. Of them, only 17 departments have completed their projects. The projects are at the completion stage in four departments and at the initial stage in 10 departments. Some progress has been made in 26 departments. There is, however, no information about the projects in five departments, according to official records.

     

    In their eagerness to catch up with the latest trends in information technology, each departments opted for its own brand of Kannada software that is not compatible with that in other offices.

     

    Departments / Directorates such as Women and Child Welfare, Economic and Statistics, Kannada and Culture, Secondary Education, Bangalore Mahanagara Palike have used “Nudi” software,

     

    while Social Welfare and Employment and Training went in for “Nudi” and “Kairali” software.

     

    While the Bangalore Urban Water Supply and Sewerage Board has used “Leep”, software,

     

    the Excise Department had adopted ISM.

     

    The Karnataka High Court and Port and Inland Water Transport department have used “Surabhi” software.

     

    The Karnataka Legal Services Authority has used “Surabhi” and “Srilipi” software.

     

    The Gulbarge Municipal Corporation has used “Lipi” software.

     

    The Directorate of Translation has used “Akrati” and “Kannada Padma” software.

     

    As a result, collection of data and reporting from one department to another is almost impossible, and the entire works has to be done all over again. If e-governance is to effective, individual application programmes should be able to communicate with those of the other departments. Inter-operability of e-governance projects is of vital importance if citizens are to benefit from information technology, say experts in e-governance.

     

    Most of the departments have given consultancy to companies such as C-DAC, Wipro Infotech, HCL, Keonics, Zenith Computers, Excel software, TCL Limited, and Crest Technologies for software.

     

    The Chief Minister, N. Dharam Singh has acknowledged the delay in the completion of e-governance projects.

     

    He said in the Legislative Assembly recently he will take steps for their early completion. Many legislators argued that crores of rupees have been spent on e-governance projects but to no avail.

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    In a message dated 6/15/2004 10:24:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, prsar-dpar@karnataka.gov.in writes:

    Dear Mr. Kumaraswamy,

    Thank you for your detailed description of the problems being faced in the operation of NUDI and the use of Kannada software to carry on work by the Government. i must confess to great ignorance of software technologies and preparation. However, your communication is a good trarting point for some study into the items you have raised. i shall ask the Secretary E-Governance to examine as to what needs to be done on the points you have raised. i am marking a copy of this reply to him which sould help you to be in touch with the source that should be in a position to follow what you have pointed out.

    Regards,

    acharya 

    —–Original Message—–
    From: NovaMed@aol.com [mailto:NovaMed@aol.com]
    Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 7:59 PM
    To: NovaMed@aol.com
    Subject: Kannada Software Development, GoK, eGovernance, Kannadigas, Karnataka

    Hello GoK PRSecretaries, Secretaries, DYSecretaries and others,

    This is request from Kannadigas of Karnataka and all over the world. Kannada should be used in all Departments of GoK. Is this happenning ? Is Development work of Kannada Software heading in the right direction? This is a request fro all of you to look into. Here are some of the information provided for your file. PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS.

    All GoK Departemnts should be using the same software and networking systems.

    eGovernance of GoK needs to look into the Development of Kannada Software. This is not going properly. Even though Bangalore being IT Capital.

    Has eGovernance checked why Kannada Developers are not coming forward with new products?

    NUDI Kannada Software is the property of GoK. Since it was funded by GoK.

    GoK sponsored Nudi software must be made Open Source Software (OSS). NUDI should be made UNICODE compatible in all avenues. Not in one item as it is now. GoK need to do this immedately without wasting any time.

    WHY eGovernance has not recomended NUDI Software to be Open Source Software (OSS) ? This helps all Kannadigas to develop further the Kannada Software, SO THAT GoK can have better programs for a smooth networking of all Departments of GoK.

    DOES eGovernance know problems with NUDI SOFTWARE? Some of them are listed here for the benefit of GoK.

    a. NUDI breaks the GOI standard when arkavattu is involved. NUDI has problem in Export to IISCII.

    b.  Nudi just has a Unicode compatible keyboard driver which works only on Windows XP (and on Windows 2000, if there is a Kannada Opentype font present)
    Nudi’s editor has a feature “Save As Unicode”. But the file saved as Unicode can not be opend again by Nudi. In other words,  Nudi’s editor can not edit a Unicode document.

    c. Nudi does not provide opentype font which is required for rendering Kannada Unicode text.

    d. There is no bi-lingual font standard for Kannada. Does eGovernance know this?

    e. Nudi follows GoK standard in these areas-


    monolingual truetye font glyph set
    keyboard layout
    save as HTML
    Nudi’s non-standard features are-
    Nudi contains a bi-lingual truetype font which is not as per any standard
    Nudi’s Save As ISCII breaks the Govt of India standard when arkavattu is involved.
    Nudi uses a scheme called Kannada Script Code for Language Processing (KSCLP) for sorting, which is not as per any standard. But the fact is that this KSCLP is a good solution for Kannada Sorting. This should be in the Public Domain.

    f. Nudi has just a keyboard driver for Unicode which works only on Windows XP and 2003. Windows XP and 2003 have built-in support for Unicode making the Unicode feature of Nudi redundant. Nudi does not provide opentype font which is required for rendering Kannada Unicode text. Nudi’s Software Development Kit (SDK) does not support Unicode.

    Egample:  Type some text in Kannada using Nudi 4. Save it as Unicode. Then open the same file again in Nudi 4. It shows it as junk. Nudi cannot display a Kannada Unicode text file created by XP or Linux. That means Nudi’s Unicode support is of no use.

    g. There is a difference between Freeware and Free Software. Nudi is a Freeware but not a Free Software. As per GNU, Free Software is the one where the source code is also available in public domain.  Nudi’s source code is not available in public domain. It is not an opensource software. Only binary (executable) of Nudi is free. If you are a software expert, found some bugs in Nudi (there are many) and want to correct them, then you can not do so.

    NUDI is not in conformity with the G.O for the following:
    1. Nudi developed using non-standard proprietory encoding which is not a standard.
    2. Nudi uses the modified ISCII standard (ISCII is a national standard).
    3. Nudi does not provide any conversion utility to convert the data created using the other existing Kannada software.
    4. Nudi does not provide conversion utility to convert between the data created in the standard glyphs and the ISCII.

        Kannada Linux enthusiasts and developers are requesting for the source code of Nudi from

        last three years.  They are needing the source code of Nudi for implementing the keyboard

        driver and the sorting algorithm. This helps Kannada Software to be developed in a different

        platform.

    Kannadigas are complaining that fonts issued along with Nudi are not of professional quality, there is not support mechanism for Nudi, Nudi has many  bugs, etc.

    Kannadigas and Developers feel IF Nudi is made OSS, passionate developers can fix the bugs in Nudi.

    From reading all the information provided, one can come to conclusion that;

    All the above has done damage to Kannada software development.

    We all need to promote more Kannada Software developers to come forward for the benefit of GoK and make it more open. THIS HELPS GoK also.

    Literally, there can be a Kannada version for every software in English. All of you please think why there are many software in English and why not in Kannada or any Indian Language. It is the business (need or anticipated need) which drives the development. How one can expect the development, WHEN KANNADA Software development is monopolised?

    If any of you has any questions on this, Please write to me. ATLEAST some of you must look into these problems that are created here and try to correect it.

    Thanks

    Sincerely

    V. M. Kumaraswamy

    Kannadigas all over the world

    www.ekavi.org

    Email: novamed@aol.com , ellakannada@yahoo.com

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    So what is you answer now ? Are you going to answer the problems that are arised here ?

     

    We are waiting for your reply and also from HONEST RESPONSIBLE officers in GoK, IF there are any left in GoK.

     

    I hope MINISTERS and POLITICIANS take notice of these things.

     

    Thanks

    Sincerely

     

    V. M. Kumaraswamy

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    November 7, 2007 Posted by | Govt. of Karnataka - GoK | 1 Comment

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